Skywatcher
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Jeez, where are they even going to get the money?
It seems as if Taiwan's defense procurement policy is: make a decision that takes the worst from each option, and then don't pay for it.
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It seems as if Taiwan's defense procurement policy is: make a decision that takes the worst from each option, and then don't pay for it.
Imho, if allowed, they simply will buy weapons associated with the f-35.
Otherwise this point was more about requirement. I doubt it would be a big problem to store air-launched missile externally on a locally developed aircraft.
I honestly don't know Taiwan all that well(even specifically excluded it from my thesis several years ago, hah). But on a first look, it's a country with a big and modern fighter force, strong economy(comparable to Turkey), robust tech sector with some aircraft knowhow, and, finally, a country with very real permanent risk to its status quo.
Am i forgetting something?
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Jura The idiot
General
I'll rephrase Yesterday at 8:19 PM
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do you think a country that isn't listed in "Global Partnership" at could get its indigenous missile integrated on the F-35?
if so, when?
(for example the US won't get the LRASM in the F-35 Block IV, says the JSF PEO)
what "locally developed aircraft"??
Yesterday at 5:44 PM I reacted to one of your "f-35 things"
#2888 Gloire_bb, Yesterday at 5:44 PM
I think you are right except for the aircraft knowhow part. They haven't developed anything after the F-CK-1 (of which the more recent indigenous trainer is a derivative).
The F-16V upgrade program was delayed some time earlier due to their lack of erpertise and experience according to rumors that LockMart expats complained (about the local Taiwanese partners).
This list only includes commited countries, as far as I can tell.
No way ROC will get F-35. Might as well sell it to Al nusra front while they’re at it
America does have a rivalry with China, but they ain’t gonna drop off advanced weaponry left and right in illegal sales to armed groups just because they are an obstacle to China.
Selling any weapon to Tsai is setting an international precedent, and not one America will profit from.
There are more armed groups gunning for America than there are gunning for China, and those gunning for America tend to be more fanatic too.
America does have a rivalry with China, but they ain’t gonna drop off advanced weaponry left and right in illegal sales to armed groups just because they are an obstacle to China.
Selling any weapon to Tsai is setting an international precedent, and not one America will profit from.
There are more armed groups gunning for America than there are gunning for China, and those gunning for America tend to be more fanatic too.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
The US has been selling advanced fighters to Taiwan for decades. The Taiwanese F16 fleet is proof of that.
And right now it's a little interesting the Number of states neighboring the PRC buying F35 vs Buying from the PRC.
That was during the Cold War when they also sent stuff to Taliban and China was busy working out rebels in other provinces. Horrible times, but they are over now.
Selling those weapons will be an open invitation for America’s enemies to sell high powered weaponry to ragtag groups opposing US.
Not to mention the value of it is questionable. A big item like the F-35 would be confiscated or destroyed before it can ever be transferred. Small stuff like guns and missiles can be hidden.
Lots of escalation for no point at all.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Seriously @Biscuits I think you need to take a moment here because your rebuke here seems to have lost something in translation.
The Taliban were founded in 1994. PRC supplied arms to Afghan rebels during the Russian Occupation that ended in 1989.
And Chinese arms continued to be supplied to a number of groups across south east Asia. Karen rebels come to mind.
But that had nothing to do with what I was talking about. That is a rag tag militia. Taiwan is a defacto nation state in all but diplomatic recognition. With a modern Military orginization and formation.
It's been buying F16 since 1992.
Although I doubt F35 buys in the near term. I suspect that eventually they will get F35B just in smaller numbers in the early 2030s.
The bigger issues are what happens after shipping.
The Cold war is generally considered to have ended in 1991.
The Taliban were founded in 1994. PRC supplied arms to Afghan rebels during the Russian Occupation that ended in 1989.
And Chinese arms continued to be supplied to a number of groups across south east Asia. Karen rebels come to mind.
But that had nothing to do with what I was talking about. That is a rag tag militia. Taiwan is a defacto nation state in all but diplomatic recognition. With a modern Military orginization and formation.
Taiwan has an airforce has maintained an airforce for decades most of its aircraft being US made.
It's been buying F16 since 1992.
Although I doubt F35 buys in the near term. I suspect that eventually they will get F35B just in smaller numbers in the early 2030s.
Only if shipped through the PRC like what happens to Singapore. But US arms sales are direct to the buyer shipping and handling included. That's how major nations do there sales. You don't get Abrams tanks UPS or FedEx.
The bigger issues are what happens after shipping.