Skywatcher
Captain
Sloppy. He wants to have his argument go two ways.
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WanChien in service
Air force to set to showcase newly upgraded IDFs
ARMED AND READY:Seventy-one Indigenous Defense Fighters have been equipped with a weapons system that enables them to fire cluster bombs at 200km
Presumably GPS/INS guided but anyone know if any terminal guidance?? AGM154A "clone" ??? 200km seems to far to be an extended range Jdams type system.
Air force to set to showcase newly upgraded IDFs
ARMED AND READY:Seventy-one Indigenous Defense Fighters have been equipped with a weapons system that enables them to fire cluster bombs at 200km
Presumably GPS/INS guided but anyone know if any terminal guidance?? AGM154A "clone" ??? 200km seems to far to be an extended range Jdams type system.
thunderchief
Senior Member
Re: WanChien in service
Gliding submunitions container . I doubt that 200km range (unless it is self-powered which I also doubt
) . More likely around 100 km when launched above 10 000 m . Guidance could be GPS (I don't know could Taiwan use US military GPS for greater precision , or just civilian version) , IR , optical , even radar .
You do not have to transmit at particular direction . In fact , most radios transmit in general direction (360 degrees)
Gliding submunitions container . I doubt that 200km range (unless it is self-powered which I also doubt
) . More likely around 100 km when launched above 10 000 m . Guidance could be GPS (I don't know could Taiwan use US military GPS for greater precision , or just civilian version) , IR , optical , even radar .You do not have to transmit at particular direction . In fact , most radios transmit in general direction (360 degrees)
Skywatcher
Captain
Re: WanChien in service
The problem with a VLF transmitter (the only option available to the ROCN) is that you need a very big, fixed transmitter to pull it off. It'd be one of the first things to go in the first five minutes.
The problem with a VLF transmitter (the only option available to the ROCN) is that you need a very big, fixed transmitter to pull it off. It'd be one of the first things to go in the first five minutes.
thunderchief
Senior Member
Re: WanChien in service
You don't need VLF transmitter to communicate with sub . It would be enough if submarine goes to periscope depth and extends aerial above water . Also , there are various systems with probes that float in surface above submarine and then could be retracted when communication is over .
You don't need VLF transmitter to communicate with sub . It would be enough if submarine goes to periscope depth and extends aerial above water . Also , there are various systems with probes that float in surface above submarine and then could be retracted when communication is over .
Skywatcher
Captain
Re: WanChien in service
If you extend the aerial or probe, chances are that the PLAN will find it (you can easily find SSK snorkels with very early Cold War era technology).
If you extend the aerial or probe, chances are that the PLAN will find it (you can easily find SSK snorkels with very early Cold War era technology).
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
That's assuming that the antennas are not featuring low observable technologies.
to be frank guys your in a circular argument. One will push the other will counter.
to be frank guys your in a circular argument. One will push the other will counter.
Skywatcher
Captain
To get off on a tangent, you really can't apply too much in the way of LO technology to antennas, because said antennas need to be able to receive electromagnetic energy without distortion.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
I don't think it really matters because unless PLAN can or has account the location for every Taiwanese sub, they are going to assume the subs are lurking underneath. Interception of VLF or other types of transmisions to the sub surface would just be confirmation of their assumption is all and doesn't really provide true intelligence gathering UNLESS they are able to decrypt the actual message. There is no way to pin point the location of the receiver. At best you'll just know the sub is somewhere in the Taiwanese straight!!!
But if it's just a generic broadcast like hey Liaoning just left port etc it's basicially meaningless since it's a given. In the grand scheme of things the Taiwan Straight is very small and narrow passage. One of the first things PLAN will do in any hypothetical invasion of Taiwan would be to make sure either all of Taiwanese subs have either been destroyed or rendered ineffective or they go full on charge and just destroy anything or everything in their way with active pinging and dropping sensors, torpedoes, whatnot and take acceptable lost. It's a short ride from China to Taiwan! There will not be much surprises from either side.
Either way like I said PLAN will go under the assumption that the subs ARE there unless they can account for every single one of them.