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cptplt

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are these in service yet and will they exercise the options? and whats the white thing between the cockpit and the first set of windows?
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MwRYum

MwRYum

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cptplt said:
are these in service yet and will they exercise the options? and whats the white thing between the cockpit and the first set of windows?
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Probably cover for hard-point that can mount extra, mission-specific equipment? Besides that. for a SAR heli it lacks the winch in this pic.
 
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cptplt

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MwRYum said:
Probably cover for hard-point that can mount extra, mission-specific equipment? Besides that. for a SAR heli it lacks the winch in this pic.
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hard point huh? hmmm- hellfire??:)

but seriously maybe winch isn't installed yet. The PRC ones just delivered didn't seem to have a winch either in the photos at delivery though the French navy ones delivered last year had one on the starboard side.
 
plawolf

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How do Taiwanese F-5E/F compare to Chinese J-7G ?
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Badly. The PLAAF J7Gs are pretty much all built within the last 5-10 years and have HMS+PL8 meaning they will almost certainly dominate the ROCAF's aged and ailing F5s.

However, given the PLAAF's current strength, force structure and the range of both the F5 and J7G, the chances that the two will meet in combat is slim even if war breaks out across the straits.
 
MwRYum

MwRYum

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cptplt said:
hard point huh? hmmm- hellfire??:)

but seriously maybe winch isn't installed yet. The PRC ones just delivered didn't seem to have a winch either in the photos at delivery though the French navy ones delivered last year had one on the starboard side.
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Come to think of it, that position probably for the high-power searchlight - though it should be on the port side not the starboard thus to facilitate winch operation - or extra floatation devices...

As for the "F-5E/F vs J-7G" now that's nonsense because by nature they'd hardly, if never, meet on battlefield - by design both the MiG-21 series (which the J-7 series derived from) and the F-5 series are for local area defense missions, even with external fuel tanks the range could be extended but at the cost of payload capacity, in short not sensible to put the short-legged J-7G on the offensive but more for defense mission...plus, despite all the improvements made J-7G is by any sense of the word obsolete, once J-10 production can be improved J-7 should be retired.

F-5E/F in the ROCAF has no such luxury though...airframes at the last leg of its designed lifespan, further reduced by Taiwan's humid and hot climate, and not to mention without the kind of upgrades that benefits the like of F-5S/T...
 
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The Obama administration plans to supply Taiwan new arms and sophisticated radar gear for its existing F-16 fighter fleet as part of an upgrade package valued at up to $5.85 billion, a senior U.S. official said Tuesday.

Lockheed Martin Corp (LMT.N) builds the F-16.

"I do not have the impression that anything is being held back, frankly," said the official, referring to Taiwan's request for the "retrofit" of about 145 F-16 A/Bs sold by the United States in 1992.

The administration is set to formally notify Congress on Wednesday of the proposed F-16 upgrade package. It has deferred Taiwan's long-standing request for 66 new late-model F-16 C/D aircraft to replace Taiwan's F-5 fleet that is more than 30 years old.

The official, who is closely involved in policy toward Taiwan, spoke to Reuters outside a defense industry conference in Virginia focused on Taiwan's security needs and China's growing military power.

He said the upgraded A/B models would have essentially the same capabilities as the C/D version Taiwan had sought at a lower price.

"So you're getting 145 planes upgraded to virtually the same as the C's and D's for $5.8 billion," versus what would have been an $8.3 billion tab for the 66 new planes, the official said.
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Sounds like the F-16s are in line to get AESA radars. I wonder which one it would be.
 
MwRYum

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Sounds like the F-16s are in line to get AESA radars. I wonder which one it would be.
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AESA only installed on the Block 60 and proposed for the F-16IN, though they all build based on the Block 50/52. Still, don't get your hopes up so high so soon...best bet is Block 52+, which'd make it overall superior against J-10A and J-11B, the current best mainstay PLAAF can offer.

Still, that doesn't solve the problem with the aging F-5/F, and the inevitable vacancy should it need to be retired...
 
Blitzo

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Upgrades are better than nothing I suppose, and if they reach F-16C capabilities it should offer parity with J-10As, and near J-10B if they get aesa as well.
 
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