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druid84

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An IDF with F404 engines would have been great. I really hope the government finally understands that no one fill sell Taiwan fighters and they start a program to design one themselves, as well as a submarine program.
 

Aero_Wing_32

Junior Member
Whatever the submarine or fighter project, It will need 2 decades to build them up. I do think that taiwanese are in urgent need of 4th generation fighters.

Meanwhile the PLA, if not playing in the taiwanese seas, is now flying in the taiwanese air space. And that s not a great news to see Su-27 facing the old F-16 A/B of the ROCAF. :(

Taiwan: Chinese fighter jets entered its airspace
Taiwan: Chinese fighter jets entered its airspacePublished on 25 July 2011 - 6:20am

Two Chinese fighter planes intruded into Taiwanese airspace, the defence ministry said Monday, in an incident local press said resulted from their attempts to drive away a US spy aircraft.

In the high-altitude face-off, one Chinese jet did not leave until two Taiwanese planes were sent to intercept it, the island's United Daily News reported.

The incident took place in late June when two SU-27 fighter planes of China's People's Liberation Army tried to drive away a US U2 reconnaissance aircraft, the News said.

The US plane was reportedly flying along the Taiwan Strait to collect information about the Chinese mainland.

One of the Chinese fighters crossed the middle of the Taiwan Strait, widely considered to be the boundary between Taiwan's airspace and that of the mainland, the News said.

"The intruder did not turn back until two F-16 fighters of (the) Taiwan Air Force scrambled to intercept it," it said, citing an unnamed military source.

Taiwan's defence ministry said that two Chinese Su-27s had briefly flown over the middle of the Strait on June 29.

The ministry said the incident was not "provocative", but sparked concerns.

"The mainland military needs to exercise its restraint, or unexpected clashes may happen," warned Shuai Hua-min, legislator with the ruling Kuomintang party.

The incident highlighted fragile mutual trust between Taiwan and China, despite fast-warming ties since President Ma Ying-jeou of the China-friendly Kuomintang came to power in 2008.

Beijing considers Taiwan part of its territory and refuses to abandon the possibility of taking Taiwan by force, even though the island has ruled itself since 1949, when the two sides split at the end of a civil war.

The United States gives diplomatic recognition to Beijing and not Taipei, but provides military support to Taiwan. Under a 1979 act of Congress, the United States is required to provide Taiwan with arms to defend itself.

Last week in its national defence report, published every other year, Taiwan's defence ministry warned that the military threat to the island from China was greater than ever.

It said the People's Liberation Army has continued to deploy various new weapons in the Fujian and Guangdong areas, referring to two Chinese provinces located directly to the west of Taiwan.

It said the PLA has more than 1,000 ballistic missiles aimed at Taiwan.
 

Semi-Lobster

Junior Member
I wonder if there will be any political outcomes from this. I wonder if there will be any official statement from the MA government about this incident?
 

nosh

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I wonder if there will be any political outcomes from this. I wonder if there will be any official statement from the MA government about this incident?

So it is OK for a US aircraft crossing the middle line of straight to the China side but it is a problem when a Chinese aircraft crosses the middle line to the Taiwan side?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Well if it were the other way around, it would be seen as Chinese aggression that China would dare to send a spy plane to collect intelligence and would be an excuse to upgrade their military. How about this is an excuse for the very same thing. Involving a chased US spy plnae should infuriate those in the US Congress to push even more for advanced military sales to Taiwan. It smells very orchestrated.
 

nosh

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From Taiwan Yahoo:

h t t p://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/110725/2/2vnvc.html

馬政府上任以來,解放軍軍機首度為了美軍機越過海峽中線!境外消息來源指出,六月下旬解放軍Su-27戰機驅趕於東南沿海執行任務的美軍U-2S高空偵察機,其中一架衝過頭越過海峽中線,我方全程嚴密監控,下令二架F-16戰機緊急起飛,Su-27才掉頭離去。

軍方研判此事為個案,事後透過既有程序上報總統府。但府方態度低調,國安會不證實也不否認,強調由國防部統一對外說明。總統府發言人范姜泰基表示,一切由國防部依標準作業程序處理。

陸委會副主委劉德勳說,並未收到國防部的消息,無法對外說明。至於事後是否曾透過兩岸管道向中國抗議?劉德勳表示,過去陸委會未處理過這樣的案例。海基會發言人馬紹章則說,海基會也未接獲國防部、陸委會要求透過兩會機制處理此一事件的指示。

軍事發言人羅紹和表示,國軍能有效掌握中共軍戰機活動情形,「遇有異常狀況」,均立即依據相關作業規定與機制處理,以確保我空防安全。

據了解,這架U-2隸屬美國空軍駐紮於韓國烏山基地的第五偵察機中隊,六月下旬某日,轉場到日本沖繩嘉手納基地,起飛前往中國大陸東南沿海,於海峽中線以西與中國領空之間的空域執行偵察任務,中方發現後立即派出二架Su-27戰機驅趕。

Su-27戰機的最大飛行高度為一萬八千公尺,遠低於U-2S的三萬公尺,U-2雖在公海上空,獲知攔截機逼近便轉向返航,這二架Su-27從內陸一路追到台灣海峽,眼看就要逼近中線,一架Su-27及時掉頭,另一架卻直衝海峽中線。

Su-27一越中線,負責海峽上空防空任務的幾個天弓飛彈連待命以防萬一,而二架F-16接到命令立刻以最大推力緊急起飛前往攔截,隨著F-16的升空,衝過頭的中方戰機也轉向返航,狀況解除。

這次U-2偵察機執行任務航線經過台灣的防空識別區,依慣例美軍曾透過管道知會我方。

The U-2 spy plane was flying in the west of the middle line. Chinese Su-27 crossed the middle line when chasing off the U-2 and Taiwan cries foul.


From Global Times:

h t t p://mil.huanqiu.com/world/2011-07/1847761.html

环球网记者李宗泽 台湾媒体于当地时间7月25日报道称,大陆苏-27战机曾于6月下旬越过“海峡中线”,驱赶在东南沿海海域的美国U-2S侦察机。据英国路透社7月26日消息,美国参谋长联合会议主席迈克尔•马伦当日回应称,不会停止在中国大陆附近的侦察活动。


  马伦说:“我们不会停止在国际领空的飞行。中国大陆希望我们离开那里。以我来看,我们是不会那么做的。这些侦察飞行是重要的活动。”不过,马伦又指出,中美应该避免类似2001年军机相撞事件的发生。


  随后马伦的发言人又对媒体表示,马伦对外界报道中国大陆战机越过“海峡中线”的报道并不十分清楚,他上面所说的只是泛泛而谈,表明美国会在该地区的国际领空进行侦察活动。


  报道称,对于媒体的报道,美国防部并没有立即确认或否认。中国大陆战机“经常试图拦截美国侦察机,以显示他们的存在”。
Meanwhile Mullen said U-2 was flying in international airspace and US will continue such activity.
 

Blitzo

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I thought US stopped U2 missions over china years ago...
 

Blitzo

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The US isn't flying missions over China. As far as I can see the U2s are flying in international airspace.

I should've been more precise -- I thought the US stopped U2 surveillance missions directed towards China years ago. Or did that never stop...?
 
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