Taiwan "Han Kuang" exercises

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It is the same exercise, but it has been reported on in different ways or some parts have been focused upon at the expense of others.

What happened was that the Taiwanese defence forces did a good job in holding off the initial Chinese assaults, but due to some sort of miscommunication/lack of communication between the central command and divisions, the south of Taiwan was left vulnerable, with only lightly-equipped divisions able to respond. As a result the PLA was able to make a beach-head and it went from there.

So in a nutshell, the Taiwanese defence forces performed well but a lack of co-ordination at a crucial stage allowed the Chinese to pull off a come-back. I think these war games are useful in stressing that communication is critical and may need to be improved.
 

petty officer1

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That day I was watching CCTV 4(it is a chinese channel in US).

then this program come up about this excersice taiwan just had. (Han Kuang)

As all you guys know, my chinese is very limited, so i call my mom and help to understand what is going on:eek:

The reporter even invited a chinese 4 star general to the show.

2 main point he stated

those computer simulation can only served as reference. no more then that. because both side don't know exactly the real capbility of some certain weopan and tactic they are going to use.

Then use this simultaion taiwan government can show the taiwan public that PLA will win in some way, and then cast fear in to the public, SO they can pass the law about buying more weopan from US. (like more destoryer, F-16, Patriot 3 missles)

The excersice serves as a double edge sword, one a military reference and a political tool.;)
 

renmin

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Gollevainen said:
....and you forget that Taiwan has these robot-killer-satelites to shoot down nazi-commies missiles and play around whit its mafia led governmaent that wants to massacare whole taiwanese population:D :p ;) :D
Just what DO YOU MEAN BY NAZI-COMMIES?!:mad:
Taiwan has no killer satilite that can shoot down missiles. The only country that has a reliable anti-missile defense is RUSSIA. NO such technology exists! The Star Wars project was a big flook. Their is no sattilite in the world yet that can destroy missiles.
 

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You missed the point, that was a humoristic lightening in the end...those phrases are from the legendary Vincelee (the true himself) from the crazydays of ezboard...all old members surely remembers it and to new ones, well it's a cruical part of our inside humour...So don't take it seriously, it was only a joke...;)
 

MIGleader

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Gollevainen said:
....and you forget that Taiwan has these robot-killer-satelites to shoot down nazi-commies missiles and play around whit its mafia led governmaent that wants to massacare whole taiwanese population:D :p ;) :D

HAHAHA
good one!!! Taiwan shall destroy china because chinas is only a big thailand
:roll:

Really, i think the DPP is getting kinda desperate to pass it;s super budget. These are the most hilarious simulation ever.
i guess the DPP's also trying to convince the congress that the kidds wernt a waste of money. Kind of hard though, these ships are 25 years old.

The kidds anti-ship missles do not have the range to hit Chinese warships if the chinese warships decided to stay out of range. But Chinese warships can fire well across the strait and sink the kidds.

in this report, i find zero mention of the PLAAF. It appears the PLAN had merely put together a couple destroyers and sent them sailing with merchant vessels.

Everything in the taiwanese strategy appears to center around the kidds. The kidds do not have aegis, therfor are EXTREMELY vulnerable to shore/airborne missles. If the pathetic chinese force simulated by taiwan in the excercice could sink one kidd, the real chiense force must be able to sink a 100.

Mr. Pennis Blair was probably piad by the taiwanese merely to put some american name and credibility into the taiwanese report.

According to the result of the war games, the Chinese military's own joint operation capabilities were lacking, he said.
This is my favorite quote. Wouldnt it be nice if you could know how capable an enemy was simply by staging your own wargame and winning?

Btw, rodger, china has 25 large LSTs, and 10 confirmed medium sized ones. It has coupl hundred small but nevertheless capable landing craft. Plus theres the recent Zubr order.
 
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renmin

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Gollevainen said:
You missed the point, that was a humoristic lightening in the end...those phrases are from the legendary Vincelee (the true himself) from the crazydays of ezboard...all old members surely remembers it and to new ones, well it's a cruical part of our inside humour...So don't take it seriously, it was only a joke...;)
Oh, sorry.:D I totally forgot about vince, how he liked robotics so much:p . Soorry. I just over reacted.:D no biggy.
 

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I think these simulations need taking with a very large pinch of salt. They may be good at testing the capabilities of equipment and units under optimum conditions (enemy behaves as you would like them to do) but seldom manage to convey a sense of a real war.

Mainly this is because these exercises are perfomed over a few days, whilst most wars tend to be slow, drawn affairs designed to wear down nerves and force mistakes.

If four Kidds can stop an entire Invasion Fleet in a direct confrontation, you can be sure of one thing, there would be no direct confrontation.
 
Gollavanein said:
Most ridicilous was the statement that Taiwanese relying on western doctrines and tactics would somehow be it's downside? And this is based on what?

I never said that. I said that Taiwanese capabilities is easier to predict because it us based on a western military. It is not illogical to conclude that Taiwanese military capabilities are within the range of a Western military of approximately equal size. The PLA however is not based on Western militaries, and cannot be compared directly to western militaries. Also, Western weaponry have been used in recent wars, so we have a general idea of how well they work. Chinese weapons are untested. In my opinion, since no one knows the capabilities of China's military, one can neither say the PLA would crush the ROC forces nor say that the ROC could decimate the PLA's invasion forces.
 

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Some additional articles... I'll translate as well as I can. My explanations and commentary are in bold, but I'll keep it to a minimum for now, letting those of you who can't read Traditional Chinese read in peace without me putting in my two cents. For now ^_^;

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蘋果日報2006年5月1日
飛彈不足 兵推國軍慘勝
抗40萬共軍 5天耗9百億 我傷亡30萬

Apple Daily May 1 2006
Not enough Missiles A phyrric victory
Versus 400,000 PRC Troops - 900 million (NT?) in 5 days - 300,000 ROC casualties

【黃敬平╱台北報導】國軍漢光二十二號演習電腦兵棋推演上周五結束,結果顯示,從馬祖列島到新竹以北的北台灣沿海市鎮,都在共軍大舉登陸後一一淪陷,連台北市及台中市都岌岌可危,差點失守;雖然國軍最後在關渡、中壢及台中大度山三場會戰中英勇擊退了來襲的四十萬共軍,但總傷亡超過三十萬軍民,損失十分慘重。總計五天戰費高達九百億元。

The HK22 computer simulated exercises ended last Friday. The results indicate that the area north of the Matsu Islands to Hsinchu were all overrun after a Chinese amphibious invasion, even Taipei and Taichung were nearly taken; although our troops were able to prevail in several areas, namely Guandu, Chungli and Taichung Dadu mountain areas, beating back 400,000 Communist soldiers, but friendly casualties exceeded 300,000. Estimates for the cost of war over five days were as high as 900 million NT.

電腦模擬
軍方人士透露,兵推結果顯示國軍的飛彈防衛能力嚴重不足,因此戰爭一開始就處於挨打的局面,全國的交通要道、軍事、政治、經濟民生等重要設施全被「炸翻了」,才會造成慘重的傷亡。

Computer simulation
Military sources revealed that the simulations indicated that the military was severely lacking in missile defense capabilities, so our forces were taking a beating from the start, all over the country vital transporation lines, military, political, and economic facilities all took "a heavy beating", contributing to the horrendous casualties.

戰機東移保留實力
這次兵推以二○一二年為背景,模擬解放軍大舉犯台與進行戰術攻防,由國防大學校長曾金陵上將率國防大學教官群扮演攻台軍(紅軍),參謀總長李天羽上將率參謀本部參謀群扮防衛軍(藍軍),紅、藍軍分別在大直聯合作戰演訓中心、衡山指揮所,各自輸入電腦參數以軍網連線開打,軍方人士形容,宛如一場大型的電腦《三國誌》戰略遊戲。
共軍一開始就發動了十二波、近九百枚導彈對台澎金馬展開猛攻,由於國軍反飛彈能力不足,重要軍事基地、政府機關、公用設施全部遭到重創。國軍為保存實力,陸續把戰機轉場到花蓮、台東基地靠山洞掩體保存,由紀德艦編成的海軍六二特遣隊疏散到日本沖繩島附近海域,海軍六三特遣隊也朝蘭嶼附近海域向巴士海峽疏散,準備展開反擊。
同時,中國派出潛伏台灣的第五縱隊在全台各地機場、車站製造騷動,首日即造成台灣數千軍民傷亡,但也遭到後備動員部隊的殲滅,並持續以導彈進行攻擊,擊中國軍指揮中樞衡山指揮所、國安局、中科院等要地,並炸毀關渡大橋、澎湖跨海大橋,雙方海、空軍不斷發生近戰,台灣軍民傷亡人數升高到數萬人。
最後,解放軍兵分三路從台北、桃園、台中沿海登陸,並在林口台地、清泉崗進行大空降,台灣北自金山、淡水,南迄桃園蘆竹、新屋及新竹南寮沿海一帶鄉鎮市也全部淪陷,解放軍甚至推進到大度山,國軍設定以國道中山高速公路為台灣西岸最重要的一道防守線岌岌可危。

Fighters remain effective after relocating to the East
This time's exercise was set in the year 2012, simulating a PRC attack, with the National Defense University Headmaster曾金陵 leading the invasion (red side), and 參謀總長李天羽 leading the defense (blue), both red and blue participated in the exercise online(?) after inputting figures into computers, military personnel described it as a large-scale computer "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" RTS game. (I am somewhat amused, albeit sadistically)

Communist forces (clarification, it's just a direct translation, and is often used interchangeably with "Liberation Forces" or "PRC Forces" in Taiwanese articles) sent in 12 waves from the start, leading off with 900 missiles striking Penghu, Kinmen, and Matsu, due to the deficiencies in missile defense on our side, many important military, government, and public facilities were rendered inoperable. In order to preserve military capability, our troops gradually redeployed aircraft to Hualien, Taitung caves to protect them, using the 62nd special naval division led by Kidd-class destroyers/cruisers (not sure which I should use) dispersed within the vicinity of the Japanese 沖繩 islands, the 63rd special naval division was also dispersed near Lanyu (Southeast Taiwan), preparing to counter attack.

At the same time, China deployed several infiltrated units to various Taiwanese airports (that were already in the country before the invasion) , train and bus stations, to create confusion and havoc, causing several thousand Taiwanese casualties on the first day, but being decimated by the reserves; later on the continuing the missile salvos, hitting our 中樞衡 mountain command center, the National Security Center, Hsinchu Technological centers and other important facilities, also destroying Guandu bridge, (Very important bridge connecting Tamshui and Taipei, about 2 minutes away from my ex-girlfriend's home -_-;) , Penghu cross-ocean bridge (it's an awesome bridge, could possibly be used as a runway, went there last summer... I digress), skirmishes between the Air Forces and Navies of both sides continued, Taiwanese casualties rose to the ten thousands.

In the end, Liberation Forces split their forces into three parts, respectively landing on Taipei, Taoyuan, and Taichung, as well as partaking in mass parachute drops over Linko (a major highway in Northern Taiwan) , Chingchuankang, 北自金 mountain, Danshui, 南迄, Taoyuan, Luji, Hsinwu, Hsinchu, and various areas and cities close to the ocean were all overrun, Liberation Troops even advanced all the way to Dadu Mountain. The last line of defense, the Junshan highway (arguably the most important highway in Taiwan spanning from the North to the South) was also in jeapordy.

Our troops put a special emphasis on Junshan Highway as the last and most important line of defense. That line of defense was also a spot of heavy fighting.

靠地利奪回主控權
國共兩軍最後在關渡平原、中壢平原、大度山三大戰場浴血決戰,國軍在地利優勢下,終於成功擊退解放軍,奪回主控權。
軍方人士說,兵推結果顯示國軍須動員現役及後備軍力七十一萬人。最後我方雖成功殲滅中國四十萬大軍,但也付出慘痛的代價,空軍最後只剩下一百餘架戰機、海軍近岸艦艇全毀、陸軍馬防部全軍覆沒,台灣軍民傷亡粗估超過三十萬人。

Using the terrain to regain the initiative
In the end, the two forces fought bloody battles at the plains of Gaundu, Chongli (Jungli?), and the Dadu mountain areas, with the help of terrain advantages our forces were finally able to repel the Liberation Forces and regain the initiative.

Military representatives stated that from troop estimates the military had to call up at least 710,000 reserves. Though our troops were able to defeat the 400,000 enemy forces, we paid a heavy price, the Air Force was only left with around 100 fighters, the Navy was nearly completely decimated, The Army (particularly the Matsu area) nearly took 100% casualties, and Taiwanese losses (death and injury) were estimated to be over 300,000.



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蘋果日報2006年5月1日
女主播報戰況 模擬輿論戰

Apple Daily May 1, 2006
Female correspondent simulates wartime reporting

首度加入
「插播最新消息,龍潭麥當勞餐廳發現爆裂物、台鐵汐止車站和台北松山機場均遭中國武裝特攻人員持槍闖入製造恐怖騷動……」這是國軍今年漢光兵棋推演的事件,為模擬中國戰時利用台灣競爭激烈的媒體進行輿論、心理戰,軍方首度找來莒光園地美女軍官陳依凡中尉扮演HK(漢光)電視台主播,每小時整點連線播報一次「新聞」,狀況逼真,藉此測試我軍民抗敵意志。
在軍方模擬的新聞內容中,包括中央部會某首長座車行經凱達格蘭大道時遭槍擊受傷,緊急送往台大醫院急救;中國不斷散播台灣飛行員駕機「投誠」、外島中階以上幹部陣前倒戈等各種消息,把國內媒體搶播相關戰情新聞弄得活靈活現,藉此測試是否會造成社會人心惶惶,參演軍官都覺得很新鮮。

"As our breaking news, a explosive was discovered in a Lungtan McDonalds; Taipei Train Station and Songshan Airport were attacked by Armed Chinese Special forces causing much havoc and confusion..." This was part of this year's HanKuang exercise, simulating possible Chinese tactics using the competitive Taiwanese media to conduct psychological warfare, our military had one of our pretty (I dunno why they did that) female officers 陳依凡 pretend to be a reporter for Taishi TV Station, reporting hourly "news" in a very realistic matter, in order to evaluate the psychological reactions of our troops, as well as judging the will to resist.

In the simulated news, several high-ranking officials were shot; China continuously claimed that there were Taiwanese fighters "defecting", outlying island commanders were surrendering; essentially sensationalizing the news to see if it would result in a collapse of social structure and order. Many participating officers found this to be quite interesting.

美軍派員參觀兵推
此外,今年美軍顧問團在前太平洋司令布萊爾(Dennis C. Blair)帶領下,多達三、四十人來台觀戰,國軍派出所有曾在國外軍校留學及外語能力優秀的軍官,投入漢光兵推負責訊息傳遞翻譯,包括首位從美國西點軍校畢業返台的李武陵中尉及首位派往美國維吉尼亞軍校就讀的李珮君中尉等人才,美軍顧問團今、明兩天還將與軍方召開漢光兵推檢討會。記者黃敬平

US sends observers
In addition, under the lead of former Pacific Commander (Dennis C. Blair), up to 30~40 Americans came to observe the exercises, our military provided excellent translators; over the next few days we will be participating in evaluation discussions.



I hoped that helped out a lot of you, it was a very interesting read for me as well, and I think that it was in fact a very realistic exercise that is worthy of notice, especially from a Taiwanese standpoint. The "news" part and psychological warfare, evaluating the resolve of the Taiwanese military and people was of particular interest.

Any additional thoughts?
 

Finn McCool

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I have a question. Does Taiwan have any permanant castal defences? A lot of the Taiwanese coastline is mudflats, which are bad to land on. A few very strong costal defences (bunkers, anti-tank launchers and guns, tunnels, mines, obstacles and AAA) between Tung-Hsiao and Sang-Wan and also around Taipei would deter attack there and would be a way to "persuade" the Chinese to land farther away from the capital and in less appealing territory.
 
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