Syrian Civil War

The Syrian discussions have outgrown the Israel/Palestine middle eastern thread. A new thread should be started to consolidate information relating to.

“Tens of thousands will be demobilized by the end of the current year, and the same next year, while maintaining combat readiness and acting in the interests of the people,” Major General Ahmed Sleiman told Syrian state television late Wednesday.

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It appears that SAA were demobilizing in the months prior to the attack. Seems like Julani waited until final demobilization notice was handed out at end of November for December and then made his move.

The collapse is obviously a black mark for Assad but it's also an L for Putin. He foolishly trusted the turks, and got outplayed by them. Just as he had gotten diplomatically outplayed prior and during the Maidan coup and later during the Minsk accords. Now this.

It was a massive mistake to leave idlib alone in an agreement with the turks. Putin will now be paying a heavy price for his diplomatic blunder and all the sacrifices in prior years are being erased at record time. Idlib should have been wiped out when they had the chance and means to do so. Syria disintegrating and turning into a jihadist haven is obviously terrible news for Russia and there is no way that can be allowed to happen.

Hopefully any last delusions about Turkey should now be gone. They are a client state of the US-Israel axis and Erdogan's lame attempts at pretending otherwise shouldn't fool anyone.

Also just repulsive seeing all the Western "liberals" cheering on jihadists. Absolute scum.

Looks like SAA is going to try and make a stand at Hama

Does the potential ousting of Bashar al-Assad have any impact on China ? I am trying to think of wider geopolitical implications.

RedBaron said:

Does the potential ousting of Bashar al-Assad have any impact on China ? I am trying to think of wider geopolitical implications.

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Likely a Libya situation, country is cut up into different institutions and their respective backers. Building state to state relationships would be difficult for China in this scenario.

People don't wait for the opposition to arrive but take matters in their own hands:

They are seeing the writing on the wall:

Russian commander in Syria dismissed according to Rybar:

SAA pushes opposition back to Hama suburbs


Reinforcement pouring into Hama, somewhat disorganized though.

RedBaron said:

Does the potential ousting of Bashar al-Assad have any impact on China ? I am trying to think of wider geopolitical implications.

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What about Syria turning into a global base for Uyghur extremists? We already see reports of Uyghur fighters in Syria fighting alongside other global terrorist organizations.