Star Wars & Sc-Fi Talk

Interesting how Andor is the most British of Star Wars that you have British people choosing The Mandalorian over Andor. Why? Because The Mandalorian has elements and people fans want to remember. You can chuck Andor out of the Star Wars universe and people won’t notice.

If you’ve been watching the second season, the first three episodes involve Andor stealing a Tie Avenger. Sounds great but most of it involved Andor being on Yavin, before it became a rebel base, trying to transfer it to someone but he instead comes across a bunch of young misfits (all human) who hold him prisoner while a very British petty "civil war" brews amongst them. We also follow Bix still suffering the trauma of her experience in the first season. Then we watch the wedding of Mon Motha’s daughter. There’s an overly extended intermixing scene where there’s a long sequence of just Mon Montha dancing with Andor escaping his captors. When something like that happens usually one plays off the other. It doesn't. It's just a gimmick.

What I see as the problem with Andor is it follows too much around regular people and what happens to them personally in their lives. Is this the legacy of Ronald Moore's Battlestar Galactica where it was all just about the personal trials and tribulations of the lives of the characters after experiencing a holocaust? We want to see people fighting not people whining. Star Wars is epic. Andor seems out of place. Tony Gilroy, the showrunner, said he didn't want to make a show that was just fan service to Star Wars fans. Did they really have to go to Yavin if it wasn't just fan service? There was nothing about the Rebel Alliance there except it was a recognizable name in Star Wars lore. It could've taken place anywhere else. Why do we care about Mon Motha's daughter's wedding? Did it play a role in the rebellion? Then there was a scene that broke a traditional Star Wars trope... a stormtrooper that can shoot straight.

I'm still hoping on hope that this will end spectacularly. What can I say was good so far? When Krennic shows up, he has a presence of Darth Vader among the civilians but we know he's just a power hungry weasel around the big players. The big one is the mystery behind Luthen. Is he a former Jedi or Sith? That would make the show Star Wars.

Why does Darth Trump look like he practices karate at Cobra Kai?

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Why does Darth Trump look like he practices karate at Cobra Kai?

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At the very least should've get the orange lightsaber...

Whoever get the AI to generate that picture and all those who vetted (I wonder) it before pasted it to Trump knows very little of Star Wars lore.

I remember when the prequels came out, because George Lucas added politics to Star Wars, the Republicans were whining they were being portrayed as the Empire. I even remembered hearing of a petition to force George Lucas to make the Rebels the Empire.

Well Andor is over and only the last two or three episodes are more Star Wars. Again Andor has to be the British version of Star Wars. They tried to make it look like a WWII spy thriller. If someone said let’s make a realistic version of Star Wars, I would find it more acceptable. The planet where the Empire committed a massacre that supposedly started off the rebellion I guess were… the French resistance? They even took a stereotype of a WWII British soldier, big bald guy with a walrus mustache, and made him a kind of Stormtrooper that doesn’t wear a helmet just to show how British this Star Wars show is.

They said that Andor season 2 would make you look at Rogue One differently. Nah. I guess Star Wars should not be made to be as realistic. Stick with the science fantasy not science fiction here. That’s why people are going to use it for their own political ends.

Unlike Star Wars which is science fantasy, Star Trek is science fiction. It was on the most part a commentary of the present day. Could it work today with a sequel? How will the DEI overlords make it?

I use to play Dungeons and Dragons back when I was in grade school. Just started playing it again with the same friends from back then. The DEI infection has spread there too. I was shocked at how Orcs aren't portrayed making war machines now. They literally have a picture of Orcs making muffins in one of the modern editions of the Dungeons and Dragon books.

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Unlike Star Wars which is science fantasy, Star Trek is science fiction. It was on the most part a commentary of the present day. Could it work today with a sequel? How will the DEI overlords make it?

I use to play Dungeons and Dragons back when I was in grade school. Just started playing it again with the same friends from back then. The DEI infection has spread there too. I was shocked at how Orcs aren't portrayed making war machines now. They literally have a picture of Orcs making muffins in one of the modern editions of the Dungeons and Dragon books.

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DO NOT TOUCH DS9. It is the best Trek show and it must NOT be desecrated by today’s morons!

If you like DS9, you will enjoy Babylon 5. I like Babylon 5 more than DS9. The characters are good and the story is sad but satisfying.

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If you like DS9, you will enjoy Babylon 5. I like Babylon 5 more than DS9. The characters are good and the story is sad but satisfying.

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I watched Babylon 5 many years ago. I even bought it in Apple ecosystem. It's a good show, not as good as DS 9 in my humble opinion.