Star Wars & Sc-Fi Talk

solarz said:

You know how most Space Opera have this "United Earth" as its basis? Well, what if humanity started colonizing space without a unified Earth? What if China, US, and Russia each had their own colonies that grew into major powers, much like how the colonization of the Americas proceeded. Over time, we end up with 3 rival factions, bound by culture and language. The American colonies form a decentralized federation, the Chinese colonies are united under a republican dominion, and the Russian colonies are part of a theocratic empire.

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There is a game that fits that. Its been billed as EVE Online on smartphones, and its from a Chinese developer. Came upon them after news that a game got into some controversy of banning pro-HK communities and clans within the game. There is also the bonafide version of EVE Online that is coming to mobile, in partnership with Netease, which is a big time Chinese game developer and publisher.

The game describes a scenario like what you mentioned but some details are different.


There are four factions in the game. The Economic Community of Dawn is the new China. You can see from their cities, their high tech and robotic ships, and because the inhabitants have Chinese names. This represents an ultra capitalistic faction.


The second faction is the Republic of Svarus. SV sounds Soviet to me, and Rus is Russia. They represent a group of tough, determined people that has gone through hardship and oppression, and has fought their way through. Their ships look rough, but are rich in detail.


The third faction is the Oracle Empire. Monarchic and theorcratic. The people dress like Jedi. They have sleek ships with long sweeping curves.


The fourth faction is Neo Europan Federation. They sound like some German stereotype to me. Ship designs tend to be blocky. Every faction has a design theme for their ships. Might is Right kind of theme.

Don't expect space cowboy like themes here, acting like a solo maverick trying to succeed in a hostile universe, like Elite Dangerous, like the Freelancer games or Star Citizen. Games like EVE Online is about being anti-heroes, forming up with other people to form evil alliances and plot to ruin someone's day.

I curious to see the Mandalorians.coming soon. The Mandalorian space craft looks reminds of the "Firefly" spacecraft.

If this story is true, it would've had to take place a while ago. Sort of hard to believe because it would be vulnerable to leaking the story out to the public earlier. Funny how this story seems to coincide with Bob Iger's admission he screwed George Lucas over the direction of Star Wars when Lucasfilm was sold to Disney. Was that a result of getting George Lucas on board and have his input with the movie? Disney has been such a disaster for Star Wars it's no wonder they've announced there's going to be break in Star Wars movies. Time to get rid of the JJ Abrams stench.

No one's talking about the new Star Wars vidja game Jedi: Fallen Order?
Game's released 2 days ago, already bought it but haven't got a chance to play it yet. (I usually like weekend shifts but not this time)
Can't wait for today's shift to be over.

It appears that the Star Trek 4 movie might be on again. I don't know about Hemsworth though, maybe there is a new story plot that won't involve him. If you remember, Chris Hemsworth played George Kirk, James T.'s father, in the 2009 movie, as captain of the USS Kelvin. The resulting time line split is referred to as the Kelvin Timeline. Of course, that is just a clever excuse for Paramount to have their own Star Trek universe for their movies to play around, while CBS owns the Prime Timeline Star Trek that makes up the series mainstream.

The original Star Trek 4 movie was scuttled when Chris Hemsworth, now a big MCU star and Thor, didn't agree with the salary, and neither did Chris Pine. who was coming off from his own role in Wonder Woman. However, a Star Trek movie cannot make as much money as an MCU movie, so salaries would have to be lower in a Star Trek movie, but the benefit of this is that your association with the franchise can go on forever and becomes part of your bankable fame.

Maybe something changed Chris Pine's mind this time. At least having a role in a movie that pays less is better than no role at all and getting nothing in return. I also think that Star Trek's star as a franchise as a whole is rising again, despite what some people think of Discovery. After the failure of the last Terminator movie in the box office, Paramount might also be desperate for a franchise to put them on track, since their only other viable franchise is the Mission Impossible series with Tom Cruise.

A bit of trivia. Do you know that Chris Pine's father, Robert Pine, has played roles in the Star Trek franchise before? Robert Pine is best known as the commanding officer of Jon and Poncho in CHiPs.

Has the Witcher started to show?

In case if you didn't know, the BBC has a remake of the War of the Worlds.

The BBC one looks interesting. There's another set in modern times I believe produced by a British-French partnership. I saw a bad review that sounded like one of them was more like Ronald Moore's Battlestar Galactica where it's just a bunch of people whining about their lives during a Martian invasion. From a YouTube video I saw, it most fit the latter because I saw little science fiction in the clip.

I binge watched Star Trek Discovery over Thanksgiving. I don't know why there's so much hate I read over it. Yeah there's some stuff I don't like but it's not the same the SJW haters seem to dislike it. Watching the behind the scenes it does look like this series has a lot of women holding the creative reins. I'd say it was better than the Enterprise TV series and probably better than Voyager. They answered the questions I had about the 1st season on how come that technology doesn't exists in later timeline series and also why Spock never mentions how he had a significant "sister." But then they could also be seen as easy cop-outs because the next season they jump ahead into the future beyond any other series and it sounds permanent because the producers say they're glad not to have to follow canon anymore.

Also saw the Mandalorian. So far so good. I'm wondering if they can go big. The stories at the moment are not complicated and locations are limited. All because of budget of course.

AssassinsMace said:

The BBC one looks interesting. There's another set in modern times I believe produced by a British-French partnership. I saw a bad review that sounded like one of them was more like Ronald Moore's Battlestar Galactica where it's just a bunch of people whining about their lives during a Martian invasion. From a YouTube video I saw, it most fit the latter because I saw little science fiction in the clip.

I binge watched Star Trek Discovery over Thanksgiving. I don't know why there's so much hate I read over it. Yeah there's some stuff I don't like but it's not the same the SJW haters seem to dislike it. Watching the behind the scenes it does look like this series has a lot of women holding the creative reins. I'd say it was better than the Enterprise TV series and probably better than Voyager. They answered the questions I had about the 1st season on how come that technology doesn't exists in later timeline series and also why Spock never mentions how he had a significant "sister." But then they could also be seen as easy cop-outs because the next season they jump ahead into the future beyond any other series and it sounds permanent because the producers say they're glad not to have to follow canon anymore.

Also saw the Mandalorian. So far so good. I'm wondering if they can go big. The stories at the moment are not complicated and locations are limited. All because of budget of course.

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Yes. Despite attack by the SJW haters, I never felt that ST had this woke thing like some recent Disney franchise movies, and flops like Charlie's Angels, Terminator Dark Fate and the last Ghostbusters had. Michael Burnham never had this "I'm a Woman, feel the girl power" thing. In fact she felt almost asexual other than her affair with the other guy. Rather than being a woman, Burnham seems Vulcan first, and like many Vulcans, has more of this Reason over Emotion thing going on. In fact her emphasis for Reason seems even stronger than Spock who struggles with his humanity more, while Burnham almost never does, other than her own beliefs in Reason.

I am not too hot on Star Wars so I have not watched the Mandalorian yet. I am looking forward to Star Trek Picard more. This one raises a lot of questions what happened to Picard after the events in Insurrection prior to the super nova explosion at the Hobus system that destroyed Romulus --- which in turn led to a series of events that brought forth the Kelvin Timeline and the JJ Trek movies.