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aksha

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India to Lease a Second Nuclear Submarine From Russia

The Indian Navy will soon have another nuclear submarine. The government has decided to lease a second nuclear submarine from Russia, top Defence Ministry officials have told NDTV.

Currently, India operates an 8,140-tonne Akula Class submarine - renamed the INS Chakra - that was leased in 2011 from Russia for a period of 10 years, at a cost of about USD 970 million.

The lease conditions allow India to fire conventional weapons only from the platform. The second leased submarine will also be the same class and is expected to come with the same conditions.

India is looking at the hull of the Iribis - a Russian Akula class submarine - that was never completed after the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s.

Yesterday, the indigenously-built nuclear powered INS Arihant started its sea trials, and is expected to join the fleet in another two years. India is in the process of building three more nuclear powered submarines. The keel of the second Arihant class submarine has already been laid.

The decision to lease a second submarine has been taken on two counts: One with three more nuclear submarines coming up, the Indian Navy needs to train manpower. Moreover, with the Indian submarine fleet depleted, the leased submarine will also pitch in to bridge the capability gap. India has about 13 conventional submarines and one nuclear, out of which only half are available for deployment at any given time.

To protect its maritime interests, India needs a minimum of 24 submarines. However, delays in implementing the 30 year submarine plan, drawn up in 1988 which proposed to procure six submarines from the West and another six from Russia and then amalgamate the technology and come up with indigenous design, has resulted in India not having a credible sea denial capability.

Plans to buy additional Scorpene-class submarines from France were also turned down by the current government. Instead, the Government wants submarines to be made in India. The Navy has been asked to identify an Indian ship yard that can build submarines after acquiring technology from a foreign partner.
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India to lease second nuclear submarine from Russia
NEW DELHI: India is on course to acquire a second nuclear-powered submarine on lease from Russia to bolster its depleted underwater combat arm as well as train its sailors in the complex art of operating such vessels.

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar indicated this possibility on Tuesday on being asked whether India was planning to acquire another Akula-II class nuclear submarine from Russia after President Vladimir Putin's visit here last week.

India had inducted the first Akula-II submarine, christened INS Chakra, on a 10-year lease from Russia in April 2012, under a secret around $1 billion deal inked way back in January 2004.

India and Russia have been holding talks on leasing another mothballed Akula-II submarine named "Irbis'', the full construction of which also could not be completed due to financial problems after the USSR broke up in the early-1990s, as earlier reported by TOI.

"It's an open secret. We are discussing the possibility of extending the current lease or of taking another submarine on lease. This will help us in training," said Parrikar, after paying homage at Amar Jawan Jyoti on Vijay Diwas.

This comes a day after India's first indigenous nuclear submarine INS Arihant began its sea-trials off Visakhapatnam. It will take "10-12 months" for the 6,000-tonne INS Arihant to be ready for induction, said Parrikar.

The difference between INS Arihant and these 8,000-tonne Akula submarines is that the latter are not armed with nuclear-tipped or long-range missiles due to international treaties. INS Arihant, during its long-drawn sea trials, will also have to test-fire its nuclear-tipped K-15 ballistic missiles before it can become fully-operational.

While not meant for "nuclear deterrent patrols", INS Chakra can be "a potent hunter-killer'' of enemy submarines and warships as well as undertake swift intelligence-gathering operations, apart from being equipped with land-attack conventional cruise missiles. In this, the leased submarine has added some much-needed muscle to India's depleting fleet of 13 ageing diesel-electric submarines, only half of them which are currently operational.

INS Chakra also serves as a training platform for INS Arihant and its two follow-on sister SSBNs (nuclear-powered submarines armed with ballistic missiles) being built at the shipbuilding centre at Vizag.

The next SSBN, INS Aridhaman, is also now ready for "launch" into water, while the third called S-4 is at an advanced fabrication stage in the building blocks. The Navy is also pursuing the proposed project to build six SSNs (nuclear-powered attack submarines without ballistic missiles) at Vizag, as earlier reported by TOI.

Nuclear submarines can operate at high speeds for long distances, and do not have to surface or "snorkel" every few days to get oxygen to recharge their batteries like diesel-electric submarines.
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Jeff Head

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India to Lease a Second Nuclear Submarine From Russia

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India to lease second nuclear submarine from Russia
Yes...we have talked about this on SD for some time. It has been planned for years but it is good now to see it happening and have it confirmed.

They need at least two SSNs and the Akulas are powerful SSNs. The Virginias, the Sea Wolfs, the Asutes and the Yassen SSNs are probably the only ones that are stronger...and any of them would have to be very wary of an Akula.

Glad to see this for India.
 

thunderchief

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Russian Victor III sub Obninsk was recently repaired, modernized and put back in service . During the overhaul it got ability to fire cruise missiles (probably Klub ) and that was tested recently . Below is an article with details (link in Russian , I used Google translate for the text)

Multipurpose nuclear submarine of the Northern Fleet Project 671RTMK "Pike" - B-138 "Obninsk" has successfully completed shooting a cruise missile from the Barents Sea, just hitting the target on the coast range Chizha in the Arkhangelsk region, according to Interfax-AVN with reference to Head of the Information Support SF Captain 1st Rank Sergey Vadim

"Conducting missile firing from a submerged position to become the first submarine of the Northern Fleet in the new school year, and for the Premier League" Obninsk ", commanded by Captain 1st Rank Roman Emperor, - the first major test after weapons ended in 2014 dock repairs," - V.Serga said.

He recalled that in the previous period of training crews nuclear submarine of the Northern Fleet "Smolensk" and "Voronezh" performed a successful launch cruise missiles against surface targets under a bilateral tactical exercises of the Northern Fleet in the Barents Sea.

Nuclear submarine "Obninsk" became part of the Northern Fleet February 28, 1991. She has participated in complex exercises of the Northern Fleet, complete the tasks 9 long hikes. Carries on board a submarine missiles M-5 rocket-torpedo 81 P designed to destroy surface ships, submarines and shore facilities defeat. Able to perform tasks at a depth of over 500 meters with a speed of up to 30 knots.

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FORBIN

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Project 10831 Losharik, top secret nuclear submarine

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This project, known by the NATO codename NORSUB-5 is a nuclear submarine for testing of technical solutions for the new generation of submarines. It is classified as deep diving nuclear station 1st row. Designed by the office Malakhit study between 1988 and 1990 as the 10830 project, it is nicknamed "Losharik" because of its resemblance to a Soviet cartoon character drawing, horse schematically with spherical shapes. 10831 The modified project with an additional sphere on the front (with arm manipulators etc ...) was ready in May 1992. Laid down on form No. 42 of Sevmash shipyard as the 10831 project, it is provisionally abandoned lack of funding in the 90s Russia then proposed to the USA to participate in its construction to make a rescue submarine proposal turned down by US authorities. The launching of the AS-12, only proven unit is only effective August 5, 2003.

Designed to dive more than 1000 m deep, with a titanium shell and a 10 MW nuclear reactor, it is powered by a propeller shaft and propeller. He was assigned to the 29th Brigade autonomous Northern Fleet submarines based in Olenya Guba unit directly to the Russian Ministry of Defense, Department of deep diving means alias GUGI MO.

According to information available, the project involves one or two units, a third possible was abandoned.

The project is the result of experimental work with the 1851 project, to be carried under the Orenburg submarine 09,786 project.

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aksha

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India will have to rent Russian nuclear submarine

India has begun negotiations with Russia to lease nuclear submarine K-322 "Kashalot" Project 971 "Pike-B", informs "Interfax" referring to a source in the Russian military-industrial complex. If the parties sign a contract until the end of 2015, the ship can be delivered to the customer already in 2018.

According to the source agency, before the submarine will be leased, it will be modernized in accordance with the requirements of the Indian Navy. Work will be performed Amur Shipyard, where now is the K-322. A total revision "Kashalot", its testing and training of Indian crew will take three years. Indian Ministry of Defence is considering the lease nuclear submarine for a period of ten years.

The fact that India is considering the possibility of renting the submarine Project 971, it became known in December 2014. Then the Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar said that the Defense Ministry is considering two options: the extension of the lease of the submarine "Chakra" (K-152 "Seal") Project 971 or rent the second ship of the "Pike-B." On the timing of the final decision Parrikar then spoke.

It was also reported that the Indian military department interested in the possibility of renting a submarine "Irbis" Project 971I tab which took place in 1994. Readiness of the ship with the serial number 519 is estimated at 46-48 per cent; at the time of freezing construction in the Amur shipyard in 2011, was formed by the pressure hull of the submarine. Earlier, India declared its readiness to consider funding the completion of the submarine and its subsequent lease.

Currently, the Indian Navy submarine worth "Chakra", built in Russia under the project 971 "Pike-B." Contract on leasing the ship was signed in 2004, and its cost was about $ 980 million (it was originally set at $ 650 million). Delivery of the ship to the customer regularly delayed; the contract of 2004 it was assumed that India will "Chakra" in 2008.
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Jeff Head

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India will have to rent Russian nuclear submarine


"India has begun negotiations with Russia to lease nuclear submarine K-322 "Kashalot" Project 971 "Pike-B"


I am not at all surprised by thjis. I have been predicting it here on SD and elsewhere for several years.

India needs at least two such strong SSNs to escort its carriers until it can begin building and fielding its own.
 
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