Speculation and facts on future Chinese vessels

A.Man said:

New Internet Speculation of PLAN 3 Fleets

052C型驱逐舰的第三、四艘曝光后，该型舰的第二批次建造数量也基本确定为4艘，而054A型护卫舰目前已有9艘服役，按照最终建造16艘的目标，尚有7艘在建或正在试航，估计最早明年最晚不迟于后年，这两种型号的驱护舰将全部建成服役，届时三大舰队的驱护舰数量以及编制也会发生显著的变化：

一、北海舰队：
1、驱逐舰1支队：
目前拥有107银川舰、108西宁舰、112哈尔滨舰、113青岛舰、115沈阳舰、116石家庄舰6艘驱逐舰和527洛阳舰、528绵阳舰两艘护卫舰以及护卫舰14大队下辖的535黄石舰、536芜湖舰、537沧州舰3艘护卫舰；
2、驱逐舰10支队：:

目前拥有109开封舰、110大连舰、163南昌舰、164桂林舰4艘驱逐舰和护卫舰7大队下辖的519长治舰、543丹东舰、545临汾舰3艘护卫舰；

今明两年内，北海舰队将增加4艘054A，分别是：538烟台舰、546盐城舰、547临沂舰、550潍坊舰，这四艘新舰会编入驱1支，535、536、537、108舰编入驱10支，107、519舰退役；驱1支的变化：拥有112、113、115、116四艘驱逐舰和538、546、547、550、527、528六艘护卫舰，护卫舰14大队撤编；驱10支的变化：拥有108、109、110、163、164五艘驱逐舰和护卫舰7大队下辖的535、536、537、543、545五艘护卫舰。
二、东海舰队：( D8 e: ~# B1 u; _
1、驱逐舰3支队：
目前拥有136杭州舰、137福州舰、138泰州舰、139宁波舰四艘现代级驱逐舰和525马鞍山舰、526温州舰、529舟山舰、530徐州舰四艘护卫舰；5 S2 W- a4 G; y" E8 H& k) Z

2、驱逐舰6支队 目前拥有131 南京舰、132合肥舰、133重庆舰、134遵义舰四艘驱逐舰和548益阳舰、549常州舰、521 嘉兴舰、522 连云港舰、523 蒲田舰、524 三明舰、539 安庆舰、540淮南舰、541淮北舰、542 铜陵舰十艘护卫舰。
3、独立护卫舰大队 护卫舰8大队：目前拥有511 南通舰、512 无锡舰、513 淮安舰、514 镇江舰四艘护卫舰
护卫舰3大队：目前拥有515 厦门舰、516 九江舰、517 南平舰、518 吉安舰、533 台州舰、534金华舰六艘护卫舰

明后两年将有两艘052C型驱逐舰和两艘054A型护卫舰入役东海舰队，两艘052C的舷号分别是150、151，编入驱3支，两艘054A的舷号分别是574、575，编入驱6支，131、511、512、513、514舰退役，539、540、541、542舰调入护卫舰8大队补缺；驱3支的变化：拥有150、151、136、137、138、139六艘驱逐舰和525、526、529、530四艘护卫舰；驱6支的变化：拥有132、133、134三艘驱逐舰和548、549、574、575、521、522、523、524八艘护卫舰，护卫舰3大队保持不变。

三、南海舰队：
1、驱逐舰2支队：
目前拥有162 南宁舰、165湛江舰、166珠海舰、167深圳舰四艘驱逐舰和568 巢湖舰、569玉林舰、570黄山舰、571运城舰以及护卫舰17大队下辖的551茂名舰、552 宜宾舰、553韶关舰、555 昭通舰，护卫舰18大队下辖的554 安顺舰、557 吉首舰、558 北海舰、559 佛山舰共十二艘护卫舰
2、 驱逐舰9支队：
目前拥有168广州舰、169武汉舰、170兰州舰、171海口舰四艘驱逐舰和护卫舰1大队下辖的564 宜昌舰、565 三亚舰、566 怀化舰、567 襄樊舰四艘护卫舰；

3、 独立护卫舰大队：

护卫舰2大队：目前拥有560 东莞舰、561 汕头舰、562 江门舰、563 肇庆舰四艘护卫舰
今后两年南海舰队会增加两艘052C型驱逐舰（舷号分别是172、173）和两艘054A护卫舰（舷号分别是572、573），两艘052C编入驱2支，两艘054A编入驱9支，162、551、552舰退役，553、555舰调入护卫舰18大队，护卫舰17大队撤编；驱2支的变化：拥有172、173、165、166、167五艘驱逐舰和568、569、570、571以及护卫舰18大队下辖的553、554、555、557、558、559共十艘护卫舰；驱9支的变化：拥有168、169、170、171四艘驱逐舰和572、573、564、565、566、567六艘护卫舰，护卫舰1大队撤编。
经过汰旧换新和编制调整，三大舰队麾下的6个驱逐舰支队的战斗力将有明显提高，如果单从编队防空能力来判断，驱1支、驱2支、驱3支、驱9支无疑是最强的，由于拥有115、116、150、151、170、171、172、173这八艘防空驱逐舰，构成了以海红旗9、海红旗16、海红旗7为弹种的远中近、高中低三层防空网，如果编入一艘航母加上若干核潜艇，立马可以形成一支完整的航母编队
备注：由于本帖楼主发帖与去年11月底，故海军安顺舰和吉首舰于今年3月转售未更新。

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franco-russe said:

The article is in fact quite interesting, though sometimes outdated, sometimes doubtful. Notably it did not know about the formation of the Nansha Patrol Frigate Flotilla and the transfer of 533, 534, 543, 545 to Zhanjiang.

This is my reworking of Google Translate:

New Internet Speculation of PLAN 3 Fleets

052C destroyer, four after exposure, the second batch of the type of ship construction quantity basic 4, 054A frigate 9 service, in accordance with the final construction of 16 goals, there are 7 under construction or in trials, it is estimated that as early as next year and no later than the year after that, the two model frigates all into service, when the the three Fleet Frigate amount as well as preparing significant changes will occur:

I. North Sea Fleet:

1) 1 Destroyer Flotilla:
Currently has under the jurisdiction 107 Yinchuan, 108 Xining, 112 Harbin, 113 Qingdao, 115 Shenyang, 116 Shijiazhuang, six destroyers, and 527 Luoyang, 528 Mianyang, two frigates and 14 Frigate Squadron, 535 Huangshi, 536 Wuhu, 537 Cangzhou, three frigates;

2) 10 Destroyer Flotilla:
Currently has 109 Kaifeng, 110 Dalian, 163 Nanchang, 164 Guilin, four destroyers, and 7 Frigate Squadron under the jurisdiction of 519 Changzhi, 543 Dandong, 545 Linfen, three frigates;

Within the next two years, the North Sea Fleet will increase by 4 054A respectively: 538 Yantaip, 546 Yancheng, 547 Linyi, 550 Weifang, four new ship incorporated into 1 Destroyer Flotilla,
535, 536, 537, 108 incorporated into 10 Destroyer Flotilla, 107, 519 ship decommissioning; 1 Destroyer Flotilla change: 112, 113, 115, 116, four destroyers, and 538, 546, 547, 550, 527, 528, six frigates, frigates, 14 Frigate Squadron disbanded; 10 Destroyer Flotilla changes: 108, 109, 110, 163, 164, five destroyers, and 7 Frigate Squadron under the jurisdiction of 535, 536, 537, 543, 545, five frigates.

II East Sea Fleet:

1) 3 Destroyer Flotilla:
Currently has 136 Hangzhou, 137 Fuzhou, 138 Taizhou, 139 Ningbo, four SOVREMENNYY destroyers, and 525 Ma’anshan, 526 Wenzhou, 529 Zhoushan, 530 Xuzhou, four frigates;

2) 6 Destroyer Flotilla:
Currently has 131 Nanjing, 132 Hefei, 133 Chongqing, 134 Zunyi, four destroyers, and 548 Yiyang, 549 Changzhou, 521 Jiaxing, 522 Lianyungang, 523 Putian ship, 524 Sanming 539 Anqing , 540 Huainan, 541 Huaibei, 542 Tongling, ten frigates.

3) Independent frigate squadrons
8 Frigate Squadron: Currently has 511 Nantong, 512 Wuxi, 513 Huaian, 514Zhenjiang, four frigates
3 Frigate Squadron: now has 515Xiamen, 516 Jiujiang, 517 Nanping, 518 Ji’an, 533 Taizhou, 534 Jinhua, six frigates

The next two years there will be two Type 052C destroyers and two Type 054A frigate to enter service in the East Sea Fleet, the two 052C hull number 150, 151, incorporated into 3 Destroyer Flotilla , two 054A hull numbers 574, 575, incorporated into drive 6 Destroyer Flotilla, 131, 511,512, 513, 514 retired, 539, 540, 541, 542 transferred to 8 Frigate Squadron
to fill vacancy; 3 Destroyer Flotilla changes: 150, 151, 136, 137, 138, 139, six destroyers, and 525, 526, 529, 530, four frigates; 6 Destroyer Flotilla changes: 132, 133, 134, three destroyers, and 548, 549, 574, 575, 521, 522, 523, 524, eight frigates, 8 Frigate Squadron remains unchanged.

III South Sea Fleet:

1) 2 Destroyer Flotilla:
Currently has under the jurisdiction of 162 Nanning, 165 Zhanjiang, 166 Zhuhai, 167 Shenzhen, four destroyers, and 568 Chaohu, 569 Yulinp, the 570 Huangshan, 571Yuncheng, and 17 Frigate Squadron 551 Maoming, 552 Yibin, 553 Shaoguan, 555 Zhaotong, under the jurisdiction of 18 Frigate Squadron 554 Anshun, 557 Jishou, 558 Beihai, 559 Foshan, a total of twelve frigates

2) 9 Destroyer Flotilla:
Currently has 168 Guangzhou, 169 Wuhan, 170 Lanzhou, 171 Haikou, four destroyers, and under the jurisdiction of 1 Frigate Squadron 564 Yichang, 565 Sanya, 566 Huaihua, 567 Xiangfan, four frigates;

3) Independent Frigate Squadron:
2 Frigate Squadron: currently has 560 Dongguan, 561Shantou, 562 Jiangmen, 563 Zhaoqing, four frigates

South Sea Fleet of the next two years will increase by two 052C destroyers (hull number 172, 173), respectively, and two 054A frigates (hull number is 572, 573), the two 052C incorporated into 2 Destroyer Flotilla,the two 054A incorporated into 9 Destroyer Flotilla, 162, 551, 552 decommissioning, 553, 555 transferred to 18 Frigate Squadron, 17 Frigate Squadron disbanded; 2 Destroyer Flotilla changes: has 172, 173, 165, 166, 167, five destroyers, and 568, 569, 570, 571, and under the jurisdiction of 18 Frigate Squadron 553, 554, 555, 557, 558, 559, ten frigates; 9 Destroyer Flotilla changes: 168, 169, 170, 171, four destroyers, and 572, 573, 564, 565, 566, 567, six frigates, 1 Frigate Squadron disbanded.

After replacement of old and the adjustment, the three fleet under the command of the combat effectiveness of the six destroyer flotillas will significantly improve single from fleet air defense capability, to determine 1, 2, 3 , 9 Destroyer Flotillas undoubtedly are strongest, have 115, 116, 150, 151, 170, 171, 172, 173, eight air defense destroyers having HQ-9, HQ-16, HQ-7 constituting nearly high, medium and low three-tier air defense network, if incorporated into an aircraft carrier with a number of nuclear submarines, flew to the formation of a complete carrier battle group
Note: Due to the deadline of the post at the end of November last year, the Navy’s sale of Anshun and Jishou in March of this year, the sale was not updated.

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franco-russe said:

One year old.

As indicated at the end, the deadline was in November (2011), before the sale in March (2012) of 554 and 557 to Burma. Also, clearly before the commissioning of 538, which was in November 2011.

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timepass said:

Can someone list them for better understanding with the types instead of names & penant number.

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franco-russe said:

The information I have is that the Nansha Patrol Flotilla was formed in April 2012, with 558 and 559 joining 1 Patrol Frigate Squadron at Yulin, but it may of course have happened earlier.



You do not have to do much research to find out, but on the other hand it did not take long to draw up the list:

Destroyers:
SOVREMENNYY II (Project 956EM) 138, 139
SOVREMENNYY I (Project 956E) 136, 137
LUYANG II (Type 052C) 150, 151, 170, 171, 172, 173
LUYANG I (Type 052B) 168, 169
LUZHOU (Type 051C) 115, 116
LUHAI (Type 051B) 167
LUHU (Type 052) 112, 113
LUDA (Type 051) 107, 108, 109, 110, 131, 132, 133, 134, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166

Frigates
JIANGKAI II (Type 054A) 529, 530 538, 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 568, 569, 570, 571, 572, 573, 574, 575
JIANGKAI I (Type 054) 525, 526
JIANGWEI II (Type 053H2G1) 521, 522, 523, 524, 527, 528, 564, 565, 566, 567
JIANGWEI I (Type 053H2G) 539, 540, 541, 542
JIANGHU V (Type 053H1G) 558, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563
JIANGHU IV (Type 053H1Q) 544
JIANGHU III (Type 053H2) 535, 536, 537
JIANGHU II (Type 053H1) 543, 545, 553, 554, 555, 557
JIANGHU I (Type 053H) 511, 512, 513, 514, 515, 516, 517, 518, 519, 551, 552

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