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oops Indonesian president watches failed firings of Chinese-made C-705 missiles at naval exercise
  • Attempts to launch C-705 missiles from two Indonesian warships during an exercise has failed
  • Failures come against the backdrop of increased spending on Chinese-made weapon systems by Jakarta
The Indonesian Navy's (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL's) attempt to successfully launch Chinese-made C-705 anti-ship missiles from two indigenously built attack craft during a major naval exercise has failed, sources from within the service informed IHS Jane's on 15 September.

The missiles, which were deployed onboard the KCR-40-class missile attack craft KRI Clurit (641) and KRI Kujang (642), each failed at different stages of their launches on 14 September.

Clurit and Kujang each fired a single C-705 missile during Exercise 'Armada Jaya' 2016 which was conducted in the Java Sea.

Both attempts were made in full view of Indonesian President Joko Widodo who was there to witness the exercise from onboard the landing platform dock ship KRI Banjarmasin (592). Accompanying him was TNI-AL chief Admiral Ade Supandi, and Indonesian Armed Forces (TNI) chief General Gatot Nurmantyo.

According to TNI-AL sources, the first C-705 deployed on Clurit failed to launch upon command, but fired unexpectedly about five minutes later after the ship's crew failed to observe a misfire procedure.

The missile failed to hit its designated target for the exercise, the recently decommissioned Tisza-class auxiliary support ship, Karimata (960). The second C-705 missile, which was fired from Kujang , failed during mid-flight, and subsequently also failed to hit the same target.

Besides Clurit and Kujang , 'Armada Jaya' also involves the participation of about 7,000 TNI personnel and 39 naval vessels including a Cakra Type 209/1300-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK).

Other TNI-AL weapons that will be tested during the exercise, that runs until the end of September 2016, include the C-802 anti-ship missile that has also been acquired from China.
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I searched Internet and it seems the President even made the countdown ...
There are about five minutes respite from the start to the President ordered to shoot after counting down from 10. The pause until then C705 missiles managed to slide occurred about five minutes.
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Ada sekitar lima menit jeda dari mulai Presiden memerintahkan untuk tembak setelah sebelumnya menghitung mundur dari 10. Jeda tersebut sampai kemudian rudal C705 berhasil meluncur terjadi sekitar lima menit.
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oops Indonesian president watches failed firings of Chinese-made C-705 missiles at naval exercise

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Specifications
Official information on the C-704, released at the sixth
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  • Warhead: 130 kg
  • Speed: high
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  • Range: 35 km
  • Cruise altitude: 15–20 metres
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  • Kill probability: > 97.7%
They'll need to change the figures within the pamphlets. LOL
 

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They'll need to change the figures within the pamphlets. LOL
Indonesia has built eight of these corvettes. They are supposed to be able to carry four of the missiles each but I believe to date they have only outfit them with two each.

Heck of a time to find that their major armament has any severe problems.

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Indonesia new Type 209 for 2017/18, tow build in South Korea and one in Indonesia

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Hyundai's HDF-3000 multipurpose frigate is a very decent design, capable, modern, and affordable.

Two of these for the Philippines will be important for them.
found this: DND, SoKor firm to sign P16-B ship agreement
The Department of National Defense (DND) and a South Korean firm are set to sign a multibillion-peso deal for the purchase of two ships for the Navy, the first military contract to be inked under the Duterte administration.

The agency issued a notice of award to Hyundai Heavy Industries Inc. last Aug. 18 and a contract could be signed this month for the two new frigates, DND public affairs chief Arsenio Andolong told The STAR yesterday.

The notice of award is a document that declares a supplier as the winning bidder. It was formally accepted by Hyundai Heavy Industries last Wednesday.

“We were informed though that anytime this week, officials from Hyundai will be arriving in Manila to receive and review the Notice of Award,” Andolong said.

“Ten days after the formal receipt … the notice to proceed and contract for the project will be signed,” he added.

The P16-billion ships acquisition project is one of the biggest items in the military’s modernization program. It aims to enhance the Philippines’ territorial defense and disaster response capabilities.

Four companies submitted bids for the project: Hyundai, Indian firm Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, Spanish shipbuilder Navantia S.A. and South Korea’s Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering Co.

Navantia and Daewoo were disqualified because of their failure to meet some technical requirements.

Garden Reach offered to supply the two frigates for P15.08 billion while Hyundai’s bid was P15.74 billion. Garden Reach was declared the lowest bidder but was disqualified during the post-qualification phase because of its failure to meet some financial requirements.

“Per government procurement law, if it is determined at the outset that the bidder has no financial capacity or it has financial capacity but its resources are thinly spread throughout too many ongoing contracts, it will not be allowed to participate in the bidding process,” Andolong said.

Hyundai, the company that offered the second lowest bid, was considered and was able to meet the post-qualification requirements.

“After the contract has been signed by both parties, DND will issue a notice to proceed for Hyundai to fulfill its contract obligation within the specified period of time,” Andolong said.

A South Korean firm, however, questioned the DND’s decision to divide the frigate acquisition project into two components.

STX Offshore & Shipbuilding Co. Ltd. said the project, which was originally priced at P18 billion was divided into the bidding for the two vessels and their weapon system and the bidding for ammunition.

STX, one of the companies that expressed interest to join the bidding, said the Philippine government “shall be grossly disadvantaged with the modification in the bid structure, aside from committing a serious violation of the country’s existing procurement laws.”

“Splitting the Authorized Budget of Contract (ABC) and the items to be bid out after the first stage of the bidding, and before the second stage, is tantamount to changing the terms and conditions of the bid in the middle of the game,” the company said in a statement.

According to the company, the bidders were made to believe that the approved budget of contract is P18 billion and the items for bidding are the vessels, weapons system and ammunition.

“It is thus unfair for everyone, especially for those who failed to pass the initial stage, to have the terms substantially changed when the bid has already been submitted,” STX Korea said.

The Korean firm believes that the DND Bids and Awards Committee purposely split the project to make it appear that the winning bidder has offered the lowest price, now at P16 billion for the two vessels alone.

“One major effect of such modification is that there would be limited number of possible bidders for the ammunition considering that launchers are usually tailor fitted for certain kinds of ammunition.”
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These two vessels will be excellent additions to the Indonesian Navy.

...
... but it seems they don't have money to arm the second one:
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Kanon main ship of Oto Melara 76mm have been installed, while the other arms of this ship into a contract with Damen is "fit for but not with (FFBNW)" in the form of launching anti-ship missiles, torpedo launchers, anti-aircraft missiles, canons CIWS, ESM and ECM. These weapons procurement will be processed pending approval of the budget and G to G for the procurement of strategic weapons.
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Kanon utama kapal jenis Oto Melara 76mm telah terpasang, sedangkan persenjataan lainnya kapal ini dalam kontrak dengan Damen bersifat "fit for but not with (FFBNW)" berupa peluncur rudal anti kapal, peluncur torpedo, rudal anti pesawat, kanon CIWS, ESM dan ECM. Pengadaan persenjataan ini akan diproses sambil menunggu anggaran dan persetujuan G to G untuk pengadaan senjata strategis.
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have no idea how credible this info is ... anyway I start cursing once I see FFBNW (no matter which Navy had to use this "concept")
 
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