Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator
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Please not ...
Global times is highly unreliable and also, this model is more or less the same mis-shaped model we already know since two years. It has exactly the same wrong details ...
IMO simply forget it.
Shenyang continues to shop for "international partners" to help them build the FC-31, Pakistan is indeed a likely "target" partner, as are several other Mid Eastern nations, upgrading to an indigenous engine would help them in their quest. I rather doubt the FC-31 will find much internal funding without at least one major international partner, preferably three or four.
This model we see floating around is likely an attempt to indicate to potential partners that AVIC continues to "refine", or "freshen", the design and is moving forward in bringing this attractive airplane toward the prototype stage.
If Turkey gets cut-off the F-35 program, there may be a real possibility for Turkey to partner and procure FC-31 based on recent events and reports.
Hope Trump continues to antagonize Turkey.
Hope Trump continues to antagonize Turkey.
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Dizasta1
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What are the chances, that if Turkey joins the FC-31 program, that Pakistan, Russia and China team up as well? Because if that happens, it would render a huge boost to the program and allow others to also join in, like Indonesia. With Russia's vast experience coupled with China's rapid advances in the aviation industry, and the other three countries having a solid base in aircraft manufacturing (Pakistan, Indonesia & Turkey), the potential for success would be huge.
Time will tell whether this could actually happen, and if it does, that would be a huge blow to America. The impact could be enormous, provided the program progresses at a fast pace. Getting the aircraft designed, tested, evaluated and certified on time can render decent dividends in the shape of orders from potentially Middle Eastern, Central Asian, North African, South East Asian and Latin American countries.
Time will tell whether this could actually happen, and if it does, that would be a huge blow to America. The impact could be enormous, provided the program progresses at a fast pace. Getting the aircraft designed, tested, evaluated and certified on time can render decent dividends in the shape of orders from potentially Middle Eastern, Central Asian, North African, South East Asian and Latin American countries.
TerraN_EmpirE
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It’s all wishful thinking.
The only part of a Partnership Russia would supply is perhaps Engines and that’s questionable.
They HAVE to sell SU57. FC31 is direct competition to SU57. The More FC31 sales the less potential market for SU57 the higher the home price tag of SU57. Ideology falters compared to budget.
The Chinese have pushed ahead of Russia in fifth gens with the production of J20 and prototyping of FC31. If the Chinese seriously start offering FC31 for sale to the military export market Russia has no real incentive to partner on it.
Turkey is trying to play Russia and China fighter buys at home to assure they they don’t need F35 and to try and get the US back into bed.
Pakistan seems solid on China hoping that Beijing gives them their long promised super fighter.
Indonesia is questionable at best last I heard they were still go for KF-X.
As to the Rest it would be interesting but F35 is already exporting to a substantial number of nations and is locked to be the most numerous produced fifth gen fighter in the world. FC31 seems set thus far has no solid on production. Fans want it to be the Sino JSF but with no confirmation and no shopping of it or evidence there In. Markets for it exist but not as wide spread. This is after all the Third world, only a few have actual Air forces and the nature of fifth gens sensitive electronics and Low observable coatings make them hanger queens. Poor choices to nations that lack a strong financial and industrial base. This virtually eliminates African nations save perhaps Egypt and South Africa. Just about all of Latin America, huge chunks of Asia, save perhaps the Middle East its a special platform unique to the developed world. I mean this form of fighter is beyond “Gold plated”.
The only part of a Partnership Russia would supply is perhaps Engines and that’s questionable.
They HAVE to sell SU57. FC31 is direct competition to SU57. The More FC31 sales the less potential market for SU57 the higher the home price tag of SU57. Ideology falters compared to budget.
The Chinese have pushed ahead of Russia in fifth gens with the production of J20 and prototyping of FC31. If the Chinese seriously start offering FC31 for sale to the military export market Russia has no real incentive to partner on it.
Turkey is trying to play Russia and China fighter buys at home to assure they they don’t need F35 and to try and get the US back into bed.
Pakistan seems solid on China hoping that Beijing gives them their long promised super fighter.
Indonesia is questionable at best last I heard they were still go for KF-X.
As to the Rest it would be interesting but F35 is already exporting to a substantial number of nations and is locked to be the most numerous produced fifth gen fighter in the world. FC31 seems set thus far has no solid on production. Fans want it to be the Sino JSF but with no confirmation and no shopping of it or evidence there In. Markets for it exist but not as wide spread. This is after all the Third world, only a few have actual Air forces and the nature of fifth gens sensitive electronics and Low observable coatings make them hanger queens. Poor choices to nations that lack a strong financial and industrial base. This virtually eliminates African nations save perhaps Egypt and South Africa. Just about all of Latin America, huge chunks of Asia, save perhaps the Middle East its a special platform unique to the developed world. I mean this form of fighter is beyond “Gold plated”.
Turkey seems to be cozy up to China. This is very short notice.
Yet skeptics are concern if can Edrogan be a reliable and trustworthy partner or as mentioned just playing one against another? Time will tell.
Turkey's Erdogan to visit China on July 2
By Cao Desheng | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-06-25 20:32
President Xi Jinping meets with his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan on the sidelines of the fifth summit of the Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures in Asia in Dushanbe, the capital of Tajikistan, June 15, 2019. [Photo/Xinhua]
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan will visit China on July 2 at the invitation of President Xi Jinping, Foreign Ministry Spokesman Lu Kang said on Tuesday.
Yet skeptics are concern if can Edrogan be a reliable and trustworthy partner or as mentioned just playing one against another? Time will tell.
Turkey's Erdogan to visit China on July 2
By Cao Desheng | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-06-25 20:32
President Xi Jinping meets with his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan on the sidelines of the fifth summit of the Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures in Asia in Dushanbe, the capital of Tajikistan, June 15, 2019. [Photo/Xinhua]
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan will visit China on July 2 at the invitation of President Xi Jinping, Foreign Ministry Spokesman Lu Kang said on Tuesday.
There’s difference between courtesy and friendliness. China is showing the former. It’s a favor that costs them nothing.
Turkey is an US ally, they cannot be trusted with cutting edge technology. Selling anything to turkey is as good as selling it to Washington directly. If a J-31 that isn’t completely gutted like the Iraqi t-72s is sold to turkey, I give it 5 years tops before US rolls out an improved joint strike fighter.
Turkey is an US ally, they cannot be trusted with cutting edge technology. Selling anything to turkey is as good as selling it to Washington directly. If a J-31 that isn’t completely gutted like the Iraqi t-72s is sold to turkey, I give it 5 years tops before US rolls out an improved joint strike fighter.
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