Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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SinoSoldier

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We have more details on the interview with Sun Cong (the chief designer of the FC-31) regarding the future of the FC-31.

央视网消息:第十二届中国国际航空航天博览会11月6日在珠海拉开了帷幕,在航空装备方面,歼-20、运-20、歼-10B推力矢量验证机成为了不折不扣的明星。而在本届航展上“两型四代”中的另外一款隐身战斗机FC-31“鹘鹰”,却仅以大比例模型的方式在展馆内进行了展示,让无数观众遗憾不已。

  众所周知,“鹘鹰”战斗机是航空工业自主研制的新一代战斗机,目前尚未有公开消息证明其已经获得军方立项。而外界对“鹘鹰”未来发展的最大关注点,就是其是否会发展成为中国海军的下一代舰载机。在11月5日航空工业举行的“逐梦海天”媒体见面会上,有记者问,沈阳地区作为中国第一型舰载战斗机歼-15的诞生地,在下一代舰载机上有什么样的部署时,FC-31“鹘鹰”战斗机总设计师孙聪回答称:从技术的角度上来说,我们四代机技术的研发,有了很大的进步和储备,在舰载机领域我们也有了丰富的经验,从时间的角度来说,这是一个国家在发展中的定位问题,一旦军队有需要,沈阳地区一定会全力以赴完成好研制任务。

  当有记者问及中国下一代舰载机研发中的重型、中型选择时,孙聪回答说,所谓中型、重型的选择是由任务使命来完成的,孙聪还引用著名的美国海军航空兵高级将领、有着美国“航母之父”之称的约瑟夫·李维的话说,航母的战斗力的表征是什么,就是在单位小时内放飞的飞机数量,所以不管是重型机还是中型机,航母需要更多的飞机才是第一要务。孙聪最后强调,作为舰载机,在没有代差的前提下,航母能放飞的飞机数量越多,它就是越好的一个航母编成。

  早在2013年3月的两会期间,当时任全国政协委员的孙聪就曾透露,中国下一代舰载机或于2020年前问世。2018年2月,航空工业沈阳飞机设计研究所科技人员在《中国航空报》撰文称,中型多功能舰载战斗机具有执行空战、压制/摧毁敌防空、对地(海)攻击等不同战斗任务的能力,可比较显著地改善航母编队的战场环境适应性及使用灵活性型,同时优化编成结构,简化后勤保障。重型舰载战斗机会影响航母携带的载机数量,而使用中型舰载战斗机不仅可以增加航母携带载机数量,维护维修费用更低,并且日出动架次率更高,综合作战效能和经济性能更优。因此中型多功能舰载战斗机已是当前舰载战斗机的主流,也是今后发展的趋势。

  在11月5日的记者会上,在央视网记者向孙聪求证互联网上关于“鹘鹰转正”的传闻是否属实时,孙聪笑答,“网上的消息把我的心中的愿望都说出来了,我们也特关心这事,至于我的回答呢那就是:等着吧!”(陈欣 李慕彤)

The bolded part is fairly significant.
At the press conference on November 5, reporters asked Sun Cong to verify whether or not Internet rumors that the FC-31 has been selected [by the military] were true. Sun Cong smiled and said, "Internet news has expressed my wishes and we're also very caring for this issue. As for my answer... just wait!"

One of the military bloggers ("angadow") stated that a major announcement might be made on November 5th. Could this have been it?

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On a different topic, has this shot of the FC-31 ever been posted here? Looks rather sleek & shiny.
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Klon

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Some promotional
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that lists a lot of specifications. There is also a video at the link.
Product Description:

The Babbler Eagle fighter (FC-31, English name Gyrfalcon) is the fourth generation (international name fifth generation) multi-purpose export fighter which meets the future (2020-2030) battlefield environment needs. It has excellent comprehensive combat effectiveness and independent intellectual property rights. The aircraft adopts the normal layout of single seat, double launch, inclined double vertical tail and full moving flat tail, with large S-bend inlet on both sides and embedded weapon cabin.

1. main characteristics

1) Multitask: Aircraft has powerful ability of over-the-horizon multi-target and short-range large off-axis angle omni-directional attack, accurate attack ability to face targets, adaptability to complex meteorological conditions and wide-area use ability. In high-threat environment, stealth configuration is used to carry out air-to-air/surface combat with embedded weapons; in general, non-stealth configuration is used to carry out attack operations with external weapons.

2) High survivability: The aircraft is designed according to the requirements of multi-spectrum, broadband and high performance stealth, and has excellent stealth performance; the aircraft is designed with low vulnerability and excellent electronic countermeasures performance.

3) Strong situational awareness: Strong target detection and external information integration capabilities, strong situational awareness and information sharing capabilities.

4) High maneuverability: The aircraft has good aerodynamic characteristics, equipped with domestic advanced medium thrust engine, and its maneuverability is comparable to that of typical fourth generation aircraft.

5) Large combat radius: the maximum airplane oil carrying 7200 kg, the optimal cruise altitude, cruise M0.8 conditions, the aircraft oil operating radius 1200 km (H-H-H); can be attached to the auxiliary tank, with air fuel receiving capacity, a single air refueling operation radius can reach 1900 km.

6) Advanced comprehensive support: with the characteristics of long life, high reliability, fast maintenance, excellent combat readiness and high sortie rate. Configurable health management system. The two level maintenance system is adopted. Equipped with advanced ground and ground training system.

7) high cost performance: high operational efficiency, lower single price and life cycle cost.

2. main parameters and technical indicators

Captain 17.3m

Wingspan 11.5m

Machine height 4.8m

Maximum take-off weight 28000kg

Maximum flight Maher number 1.8

Maximum flat speed 1400km/h

Practical ceiling 16km

Maximum overload range +9/-3g

Aircraft oil battle radius 1200km

Maximum mount capacity 8t (buried 2T, plug-in 6T)

Take off distance 450m

Landing distance is 700M

The whole machine life is 6000fh /30y

3. major aircraft systems

1) Cockpit system: The main display is 20 *8 inches with a flat-down cockpit cover and a binocular helmet display. It adopts linear throttle control mechanism, integrated side control rod and integrated pedal.

2) Flight Pipe System: The three-redundancy distributed high-reliability digital control system based on dual-bus is used to realize the functions of flight/push integrated control, electromechanical integrated control and management, landing gear retractable/brake/front wheel turning integrated control and so on. It has the ability of fault reconfiguration.

3) Propulsion system: Two domestic advanced and high performance turbofan engines with small bypass ratio and a single bench thrust of 87.2 kN are used.

4) mission system: adopt comprehensive, lightweight, intelligent, open and low-cost task system. With all-optical network as the link and open system architecture, the system can be dynamically configured to support system expansion according to user's customized needs. Task planning, situational awareness, target detection, recognition and tracking, Tactical Attack and defense, weapon projection and guidance, electronic countermeasures, communications, navigation and other multiple tasks.

It can be equipped with export active phased array radar, advanced photoelectric detection system, integrated communication navigation identification system and electronic countermeasure system to support customization.

5) Weapon system: With the suspension management subsystem as the core of control and management, the functions of installation and suspension of weapons/suspensions, air-to-air/surface weapon attack and aerial gun attack are realized. There are 6 interior and 6 exterior hanging points, which can be equipped with various air-to-air and surface weapons provided by export type or users, and 1 gun.

4. environmental adaptability
Aircraft is designed for environmental adaptability based on global deployment and operational use. It has the ability to carry out operational tasks in complex environments such as day and night, high temperature, severe cold, low pressure, sand and dust, wind, rain, snow, fog, salt and so on. It can be deployed in plain area, desert area, coastal high salt fog area, low latitude high humidity and heat area, high latitude cold area and plateau low pressure area, etc. It has obvious advantages and high survivability in strong electromagnetic radiation environment and large maneuvering overload operation.
 

supercat

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According to AV&ST, J-31 is now government-funded, and not only that, now both air force and navy want it.

Avic’s J-31 Fighter Is a Winner After All

Not long after the J-31 fighter prototype from Avic’s Shenyang Aircraft Corp. appeared in 2012, analysts realized that it was not, after all, a new combat aircraft for the Chinese military. It was just a technology demonstrator from a well-resourced but frustrated state company that had lost two air force fighter competitions in a row.

Now the J-31 has indeed become a government-funded project, apparently rescued by the shortcomings of the J-15, a naval Flanker derivative also built by Shenyang Aircraft. The navy needs the J-31, and the air force wants it, too.

State arms organizations are meanwhile working on improvements to earlier fighters, including the two that Avic’s Chengdu Aircraft builds after beating Shenyang Aircraft in competitions: the J-10 and J-20. At Airshow China, held here on Nov. 6–11, Avic demonstrated a thrust-vectoring nozzle on a J-10. Cetc exhibited radars that revealed a new interest in wide-area fire-control sensors for Chinese fighters.

China's Navy and Air Force are getting a new combat aircraft

Technology is available for upgrading current types

The J-31 is being developed for domestic military service under government contract, an official source says. The type is now intended to serve with the navy, says the source, confirming rumors and speculative news reports that have appeared over the past few years. The air force also wants to put the J-31 into service, says the source, declining to provide more information.

Shenyang Aircraft has built two J-31 prototypes, the second of which appeared in late 2016 and is larger than the first.

The navy evidently needs the J-31 as a shipboard fighter to replace the J-15, which reportedly suffers from unstable flight control—a severe problem for carrier landings. Lt. Gen. Zhang Honghe, deputy head of the air force, told Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post in July that a new fighter would replace the J-15, which is also built by Shenyang Aircraft.

The J-31, also known as the FC-31, was competing for the navy contract with the J-20 from Chengdu Aircraft, the Sina web portal reported in July. The J-20’s wing loading looks high, making the large fighter an improbable candidate for shipboard operation, which requires low stalling speeds for safe recoveries. Also, state television has shown a model of the J-31 in naval service, though that did not mean it had been selected.

The air force’s desire to use the J-31 has not been expected but can be explained by the navy’s willingness to pay for full-scale development. The air force probably rejected an offer of the J-31 from Shenyang Aircraft 8–10 years ago because the service wanted to concentrate resources on acquiring the less advanced but urgently needed J-10: Most fighter squadrons were equipped with obsolete aircraft. Reflecting that urgency, Avic officials said at the time that the group was trying to build the J-10 as fast as possible and could not consider exports.

The J-10 cannot have been a candidate as the navy’s J-15 substitute, because the Chengdu Aircraft type has only one engine, a serious safety shortcoming at sea unless extreme reliability can be expected from the powerplant.

Maximum weight for the initial J-31 design was 25 metric tons; this has risen to 28 metric tons for the design represented by the second prototype, says Sina’s news service. For naval service, weight would rise to 30 metric tons, it says, citing unnamed sources. Radius would rise to 1,500 km (930 mi.) from 1,250 km, the news service adds, but such figures are almost meaningless if the mission and stores are not specified.

An Avic-owned J-10B testbed, in a Nov. 6 flying display, demonstrated China’s new mastery of extreme aerial maneuverability aided by an experimental thrust-vectoring control system. Over a crowd of thousands attending Airshow China, the J-10B’s axisymmetric vectoring engine nozzle enabled several aerial stunts associated with the most agile combat fighters.

Thrust vectoring allows a pilot to control an aircraft in an aerodynamic stall condition caused by a low speed and a high angle of attack. By using the vectoring nozzle to rotate the thrust produced by the engine, the pilot can perform tightly controlled maneuvers in a condition that would cause most aircraft to depart controlled flight.

In the most dramatic stunt, the J-10B’s pilot pulled the nose back almost 90 deg., then used thrust-vectoring control to rapidly reverse direction in a maneuver known as a “J-turn.” The J-10B also performed an air show stunt familiar to Russian fighters. Pulling the nose back beyond 90 deg. at a very low speed, the thrust vectoring system kept the aircraft in firm control. Such maneuvers, while popular at air shows, have limited value in modern combat against another fighter. Post-stall maneuvering can, however, help a fighter pilot in other ways, such as by avoiding detection by flying with a forward speed lower than the threshold velocity required for being spotted on an airborne early warning radar.

Thrust-vectoring technology has been available to Russian and U.S. pilots since the 1990s but has entered China’s aerial arsenal only recently. The delivery of Sukhoi Su-35 fighters in 2016 introduced thrust-vectoring-control technology to the Chinese air force fleet. Around the same time, pictures surfaced of Avic’s J-10B testbed equipped with a thrust-vectoring nozzle.

China does not usually exhibit new technology under development for the military, but an official says that in the case of the thrust-vectoring nozzle the country was far enough behind the U.S. and Russia for the matter not to be regarded as sensitive.

Since the J-10 has been used as a testbed for the nozzle, the technology can be expected to be applied to production units of that type. Song Zhongping, a military expert quoted by the Global Times newspaper, says that the test program is also laying the groundwork for applying thrust vectoring to a version of the J-20 fighter under development, called the J-20A.

The Cetc radars unveiled at Airshow China allow a fighter to search across an arc of up to 240 deg. without making a turn. The group displayed the new sensors in radomes that matched the shapes of the J-10 and J-20. The presentation suggested Cetc intended to offer the fire control radars as upgrades for the air force. They had active, electronically scanned arrays (AESA).

A radar displayed in a J-20-like radome proposes to introduce a three-antenna array in the nose of a fighter. A front-facing large array sweeps for targets over a 120-deg. field of view, a Cetc official says. Two more arrays are mounted on each side of the radome below a J-20-like fuselage chine. Each of the side-facing arrays searches across a 60-deg. field of view. The data from all three arrays is fused together, providing the pilot a 240-deg. radio-frequency map of a battlefield.

Cetc also showed another radar in a shape resembling the nose radome of a J-10. This sensor lacked the side-facing arrays but installed the front-facing AESA on a mechanical gimbal.
 

Air Force Brat

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We have more details on the interview with Sun Cong (the chief designer of the FC-31) regarding the future of the FC-31.



The bolded part is fairly significant.


One of the military bloggers ("angadow") stated that a major announcement might be made on November 5th. Could this have been it?

========

On a different topic, has this shot of the FC-31 ever been posted here? Looks rather sleek & shiny.
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besides its a primer bird, don't paint it!
 

Klon

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The fact that AviationWeek used "J-31" as a designation automatically discredits the article of any authenticity.
Let's be serious, it clearly doesn't.

Anyway, my opinion is that this is happening and an official announcement (or more definitive rumors, etc.) has to happen at some point. The protracted period without final confirmation is (potentially) similar to the Su-35 sale.
 

latenlazy

Brigadier
Let's be serious, it clearly doesn't.

Anyway, my opinion is that this is happening and an official announcement (or more definitive rumors, etc.) has to happen at some point. The protracted period without final confirmation is (potentially) similar to the Su-35 sale.
We didn’t get formal announcements for the J-20 or any other PLAAF projects, so I don’t really expect one for the J-31. The norm has typically been backdoor confirmations.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
Let's be serious, it clearly doesn't.

Anyway, my opinion is that this is happening and an official announcement (or more definitive rumors, etc.) has to happen at some point. The protracted period without final confirmation is (potentially) similar to the Su-35 sale.

The AW&ST article sources its info from SCMP and an "unnamed source"; does that sound like a well-researched & knowing piece to you? So far, the most authoritative non-Chinese source on PLA matters is The War Zone (at The Drive) since they actually put in effort to conduct research & sift facts from BS.

I don't think there will ever be an announcement on this matter. Why would they, given that the J-XY will not be an exportable fighter and that all major PLA projects are kept under tight OPSEC?
 

Klon

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We don’t get formal announcements for the J-20 or any other PLAAF projects, so I don’t really expect one for the J-31. The norm has typically been backdoor confirmations.
There are a number of functionally equivalent options. It's all under the etc.

Of course, formal announcements also happen, just later.

The AW&ST article sources its info from SCMP and an "unnamed source"; does that sound like a well-researched & knowing piece to you? So far, the most authoritative non-Chinese source on PLA matters is The War Zone (at The Drive) since they actually put in effort to conduct research & sift facts from BS.

I don't think there will ever be an announcement on this matter. Why would they, given that the J-XY will not be an exportable fighter and that all major PLA projects are kept under tight OPSEC?
It hinges on the source, which remains anonymous. I don't care about the article either way, but the designation used cannot mean what you said. I'm not a fan of the occasional trolling.
 
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