Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

kwaigonegin said:

NATO is going to shiat bricks if Turkey even considers buying 5th Gen fighter from China LOL

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siegecrossbow said:

The SAC may enter Turkey's next generation fighter competition. Good news for the J-31?

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as well they should?

Turkey already is an outcast because it might order Chinese airdefence system; they will think twice before further hurting EEG feelings since they so much would like to join.

pendragon said:

Turkey already is an outcast because it might order Chinese airdefence system; they will think twice before further hurting EEG feelings since they so much would like to join.

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I don't know about that but the thinking in Europe is that all Germany and France say about welcoming Turkey as an EU member, and that is very little, is pure BS. And the Turks know that.

kwaigonegin said:

NATO is going to shiat bricks if Turkey even considers buying 5th Gen fighter from China LOL

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I'm not so sure NATO needs to worry at all, because China isn't selling the J-20, and with one known airworthy J-31 and few verified facts on capability, performance and availability, it's not ready for export competition with the F-35.

Blackstone said:

I'm not so sure NATO needs to worry at all, because China isn't selling the J-20, and with one known airworthy J-31 and few verified facts on capability, performance and availability, it's not ready for export competition with the F-35.

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That wasn't the point I was making though.

pendragon said:

Turkey already is an outcast because it might order Chinese airdefence system; they will think twice before further hurting EEG feelings since they so much would like to join.

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Well, on the bright side, if Turkey goes with a Chinese fifth gen, their much hyped comparability issues with the Chinese SAMs they want to buy becomes a whole lot less of an issue.

I think right now Turkey is still a little too far away for it to ditch the F35 and go for the J31. But in a decade or two, after China's new Silk Road programmes start to really come together and bare fruit (which will also vastly improve transportation links between China and Turkey), Turkey may well see joining the China focused new pan Euroasian continental economic block as the superior option to the EU carrot Buressls is perpetually dangling just out of reach.

tphuang said:

well, not sure how I really look at stories from qq. Doesn't seem like a legitimate source.

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I agree. But 1) the link did mention that the SAC may enter the competition and 2) even if the deal doesn't fall through, the SAC gets free publicity.

The recently surge of publicity with Pakistan (and now supposedly Turkey) has me (wishfully) thinking that the J-31 program is about to reach a milestone soon (perhaps emergence of 2nd prototype?).

Deino, it's time for you to go on vacation!

Deino's law; that if there was ever a major new Chinese defense update it will likely be when Deino is away from the PC and internet.

@ no_name & SinoSoldier !

Yes, it seems indeed to be one of the few - at least for me still mysterious - laws of Chinese aeronautics !

Like I already noted in the J-20 tread, the next opportunity will be between 6. - 11. July (when I'm away with a class) and even more between 27. July and 15. August (family holydays in France !) ... so I think the chances are good that at least until mid-August we know more about J-20 '2016', Y-20 '20004', the operational units of J-10B and J-16 ... and maybe more !

Deino