Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator
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broadsword
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I think the J-31 has a longer nose, giving the illusion that it is thinner.
A Bar Brother
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FC-31's nose may be longer, but the F-35's nose is fat near the cockpit. We'll know for sure when the Chinese show the radar.
wtlh
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The two pictures are at a slightly different scale too. The FC-31 picture is slightly smaller. Look at the size differences in the landing gears and pilots' helmets.
broadsword
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The picture of the F-35 is taken not only closer but also at a lower angle.
That article pretty much put RD-93MA on the same level as RD-33MKM. I'm really not sure how you could interpret it any other way.
Just look at that last paragraph. They want to refine RD-93 and RD-33MK. And the results would be RD-93MA and RD-33MKM. Isn't it pretty obvious?
Not that I understand why there is an argument over this, since the original point is that no engine is available FC-31 project. And that this possible intermediate solution of RD-93MA is still in development and not available yet.
A Bar Brother
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Look at the relative sizes of the pilots and the wheels and compare them to the nose. You don't have to compare the two photos directly, unless someone counts pixels.
thunderchief
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Main sticky point is that RD-33MKM as yet still doesn't exist, or at least it is not offered for sale either on Klimov's site or elsewhere . Therefore, by the same logic , RD-93MA is also not available , either for FC-31 or JF-17 , as you said yourself.
Baseline RD-93, no matter how we put it, is just old RD-33 with repositioned gearbox . No smoke reduction , no FADEC, no increase in thrust or in time between overhauls . Lately, rumors have been floating that China (or Pakistan via China) ordered second batch of RD-93 , after initial 100. I somehow doubt they would be satisfied with basically same engine from 80's , especially considering that new and improved RD-33MK exists . But, that is just my 2 cents worth opinion
AeroEngineer
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Main sticky point is that RD-33MKM as yet still doesn't exist, or at least it is not offered for sale either on Klimov's site or elsewhere . Therefore, by the same logic , RD-93MA is also not available , either for FC-31 or JF-17 , as you said yourself.
Baseline RD-93, no matter how we put it, is just old RD-33 with repositioned gearbox . No smoke reduction , no FADEC, no increase in thrust or in time between overhauls . Lately, rumors have been floating that China (or Pakistan via China) ordered second batch of RD-93 , after initial 100. I somehow doubt they would be satisfied with basically same engine from 80's , especially considering that new and improved RD-33MK exists . But, that is just my 2 cents worth opinion
so I don't understand what you were trying to say all along if you agree with me that there is no ready current option.
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