Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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solarz

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like any countries,US man of the moon project was purely political propaganda , trying to tell the russian that our system and science is better than yours,east germany invest heavely in athletic program was also part of the propaganda tool against west germany.socialism is superior to degenerate capitalist west.
China needed the carriers for symbolic and political propaganda reason.

Yeah, the moon landing was purely propaganda. It had nothing to do with the collective dream of humanity or anything insignificant like that, right? :rolleyes:

Never believe someone who reduces issues to a single cause. Reality doesn't work that way.
 

no_name

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the commision of carrier is more of political symbolic than military.
China use to complain that China is the only countries in UN security council do not possess aircraft carrier. with liaoning CV finally fill the (political) gap.

Actually, China just recently made a modified public statement that they are the only country in the UN security council that does not possess an indigenous aircraft carrier.

If the next carrier is conventional, I guess they are going to say that as a major stake holder, they need nuclear aircraft carriers.

I smelled a drift...but it ain't for symbolic reasons :rolleyes:
 
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Lion

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We have seen J-20 flying prototype equipped with RCS nozzle. I am wondering why SAC has not implement for their J-31 of the RD-93 engine? Or maybe is beyond the scope of SAC? Can we safely say the engine on J-20 is definitely a domestic version which is within the scope of their own modification while foreign engine will not able to do so as demonstrated by J-31 with RD-93 engine.
 

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We have seen J-20 flying prototype equipped with RCS nozzle. I am wondering why SAC has not implement for their J-31 of the RD-93 engine? Or maybe is beyond the scope of SAC? Can we safely say the engine on J-20 is definitely a domestic version which is within the scope of their own modification while foreign engine will not able to do so as demonstrated by J-31 with RD-93 engine.

i think RD-93 is just an interim solution. We might not see that on J-31 until it gets its intended engine.
 

Lion

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i think RD-93 is just an interim solution. We might not see that on J-31 until it gets its intended engine.

But isn't the engine on J-20 is an interim engine? Or maybe you are saying The silver nozzle cross section engine on J-20 is WS-15?

Actually until we are still not very sure of the engine on J-20. But judging by the modification of nozzle petal and some of its flight characteristic. It is very unlikely to be AL-31F.
 
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flateric

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Please forgive my hairy Russian incompetence, but what the hell is written on scroll this Falco rusticolus(?) carrying in its claws, and to the right of the bird silhouette? and do blue/yellow badges have any symbolic meaning for Shenyang guys?

Anyway, thanks!
 

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Engineer

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Please forgive my hairy Russian incompetence, but what the hell is written on scroll this Falco rusticolus(?) carrying in its claws, and to the right of the bird silhouette? and do blue/yellow badges have any symbolic meaning for Shenyang guys?

Anyway, thanks!

It says AVIC.
 

Speeder

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Please forgive my hairy Russian incompetence, but what the hell is written on scroll this Falco rusticolus(?) carrying in its claws, and to the right of the bird silhouette? and do blue/yellow badges have any symbolic meaning for Shenyang guys?

Anyway, thanks!

It signifies designers’ burning urge of reviving Joe de Plumber style a la 80’s and their heartbreaking transformation from hairy Shenkhoi into rather smooth Shenlok Mart in one go, well, at least it seems, as if it were announcing in a White House all-black evening ball with altavoz “do you feel lucky, punk?!”. :p
 

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It signifies designers’ burning urge of reviving Joe de Plumber style a la 80’s and their heartbreaking transformation from hairy Shenkhoi into rather smooth Shenlok Mart in one go, well, at least it seems, as if it were announcing in a White House all-black evening ball with altavoz “do you feel lucky, punk?!”. :p

As cousin Eddie on Christmas Vacation would say "BINGO", but his best line is "that there is an RV Clark, now don't you go fallin in love with it, cause we're takin it with us when we leave next month".

TOP SECRET-----eyes only

Actually since LOCKMART, lost the guvmint contract for our own little alien fighter, and the aliens transmitted a self destruct code to their captured alien bird at area 51, Lockmart knew the engineers at Shenyang were the only men on earth capable of reverse engineering the alien fighter from a black and white polaroid photo which was all we had left, the F-31 is a result of that colaborative effort between the alien fighters at Lockmart and Shenyang, the small size and rd-93s are developemental as the J-31 will actually be powered by a nuclear version of the F-119/F-135, scaled to the J-31 proportions, of course it will have cloaking and hypersonic/time warping technology as the battle with the aliens is actually still ongoing in the middle 50s, as we did not have the capability to reverse engineer the tech until now. If you talk or transmit this data outside this classified thread of course I will find you, and ------------well you know the rest! Don't even think about it, this is what the Headmaster is talking about when he says super secret hypersonic tech! In two nanos your computer screen will flash and you will forget we ever had this conversation! AFB
 

FarkTypeSoldier

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I think J-15 borrows the idea and aerodynamic of the Su-33, other things have to be resolved and designed by Chinese engineers. If you call this a copy, then it is a copy (by your standard).

I think "referencing" would be a more nicer term.

I personally do not think it is copy as the aircraft was built from scratch.
 
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