SAC developing VTOL stealth fighter, called "Snowy Owl"

Jeff Head

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Not really if you have the right aircraft engines and catapaults and procedures, you can launch large aircraft off of a carrier successfully.

Consider the A-5 Vigilante that the US Navy routinely launched off of its large carriers in the 60s and 70s.

Compare it in this picture to the F-8 Crusader to the right, the air superiority fighter of the day (and not a small aircraft itself) and the A-4 Skyhawk to the left (on the cat) the smaller attack aircraft.

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These were large long range bomber and recon aircraft the US Navy employed back then. Larger than the J-20.

Also, the A-3 Skywarrior, equally large, was used in the same time frame and extending into the 1980s off of the carrier decks.

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So, large aircraft, larger than the J-20, can operate off of a carrier if properly equipped.
 
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Jeff Head

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According to an image revealed by China's state-run TV station, the country is developing a fourth generation fighter. Nicknamed Snowy Owl by Chinese military enthusiasts, the appearance of the jet fighter is similar to the F-35 made by the United States defense contractor Lockheed Martin.
I do not see any characteristics that would make me believe it is VTOL capable.

Those nozzels would have to be able to rotate downward, and there should be a large area for a vertical fan of some type.

Here's the VTOL J-35B in operation. Notice the engine nozzle at the rear and the fam behind the conckpit.

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delft

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Not really if you have the right aircraft engines and catapaults and procedures, you can launch large aircraft off of a carrier successfully.

Consider the A-5 Vigilante that the US Navy routinely launched off of its large carriers in the 70s and 80s.

Compare it in this picture to the F-8 Crusader to the right, the air superiority fighter of the day (and not a small aircraft itself) and the A-4 Skyhawk to the left (on the cat) the smaller attack aircraft.

northamerican-a5-vigilante_17.jpg


These were large long range bomber and recon aircraft the US Navy employed back then. Larger than the J-20.
The were initially built around 1960 and used during the 'sixties. Attrition replacements were built '68-'70.
 

Jeff Head

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You are correct. The Vigilante ended its service on the carriers at the end of the 1970s and did not extend into the 1980s. I was thinking of the Skywarrior (also a very large aircraft) which as an attack andtanker aircraft did extend into the eighties.

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SinoSoldier

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This article is contradictory, first it says the snowy owl looks similar to the F-35, then says it has a triplane configuration... I'm calling this one BS for the moment.

It looks like the F-35 from the front.

I actually have a suspected AVIC model of this

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Blitzo

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It looks like the F-35 from the front.

I actually have a suspected AVIC model of this

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Lol that's why you need to see whether your sources are credible.

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That mock up is actually of Lockheed origin and was to be a similar role with the current F-35... And the fact remains the article is contradictory and probably fully BS.

Besides, the picture of the Lockheed JAST porposal you posted isn't a triplane configuration either, it's delta/canard.

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SinoSoldier

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I do not see any characteristics that would make me believe it is VTOL capable.

Those nozzels would have to be able to rotate downward, and there should be a large area for a vertical fan of some type.

Here's the VTOL J-35B in operation. Notice the engine nozzle at the rear and the fam behind the conckpit.

f-35b-03.jpg


f-35b-08.jpg


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The article did not say that it doesn't have all of the above features.

The article doesn't provide every single detail
 

Blitzo

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The article did not say that it doesn't have all of the above features.

The article doesn't provide every single detail

That article did show a picture of the F-35 and a fanboy drawing of the supposed snowy owl which looks like a stealthy Su-33 or Su-35... The fact they showed such a plane which obviously won't have the VSTOL features they listed shows incompetence, not to mention labelling the snowy owl as "J-15" while everyone knwos the J-15 is the Chinese naval flanker.

And we haven't seen any pictures of the supposed state tv showing the image of the "snowy owl" either, and the lack of details further augments my conclusion that this article and this news site is both BS and unreliable, respectively.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
That article did show a picture of the F-35 and a fanboy drawing of the supposed snowy owl which looks like a stealthy Su-33 or Su-35... The fact they showed such a plane which obviously won't have the VSTOL features they listed shows incompetence, not to mention labelling the snowy owl as "J-15" while everyone knwos the J-15 is the Chinese naval flanker.

And we haven't seen any pictures of the supposed state tv showing the image of the "snowy owl" either, and the lack of details further augments my conclusion that this article and this news site is both BS and unreliable, respectively.

The fanboy CGI was around much longer than the article. They simply used it as a reference picture.

J-15 is a designation given by fanboys. We don't know the true designation for the naval Flanker. For all we know it could be J-11C.

Whenever you watch TV, do you have a camera at the ready? It's not like CCTV will replay the frame over and over again.
 
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