b787
Captain
The picture of Sergei Sobyanin very likely is a T-30
Well the point is simple, R-77 can fold their wings that is the whole point no need to go further
Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)
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The picture of Sergei Sobyanin very likely is a T-30
Well the point is simple, R-77 can fold their wings that is the whole point no need to go further
To admit it is relevant since it proves Your way of "discussing" since years: denying everything that does not fit Your agenda while in return using most of all unreliable propaganda "sources" to bake Your claims.
You are constantly avoiding questions and arguments when they don't fit Your agenda and then turn them down as irrelevant. that's not arguing, that's trolling.
As such it is relevant to mention that.
So please simply explain why a non operational test-variant of the R-77 + folding fins proves anything concerning the question "are these side-bays or not and what missiles can fit?"
Also I already asked You how could this be a Izd. 30 if it is spotted in the wrong factory??
Deino
b787
Captain
I was talking about the ventral bays, the R-77 are for those
You ! You are always talking about other things when explicitly pointed towards a certain point. You are always posting long and irrelevant posts spiced up with images You find somewhere in the www even if they are completely irrelevant to the question that is just under discussion.
That's derailing a thread.
b787
Captain
did you read, it really annoys me you are not trying to read what i posted the news fragment is from Salyut, the say in the latest news they did research for the new engine for PAKFA in the time period of 2013-2014.To admit it is relevant since it proves Your way of "discussing" since years: denying everything that does not fit Your agenda while in return using most of all unreliable propaganda "sources" to bake Your claims.
You are constantly avoiding questions and arguments when they don't fit Your agenda and then turn them down as irrelevant. that's not arguing, that's trolling.
As such it is relevant to mention that.
So please simply explain why a non operational test-variant of the R-77 + folding fins proves anything concerning the question "are these side-bays or not and what missiles can fit?"
Also I already asked You how could this be a Izd. 30 if it is spotted in the wrong factory??
Deino
The R-77 is for the ventral bays, the K-30 can be fitted in the side bays
b787
Captain
no derailing my friend i know what you are up to, you are provoking me, trying to pick a fight, but i will control my friend read what i said and later you draw conclusions
Also highly unlikely. The K-30 was a Russian/Ukrainian IR-AAM under development and I#m almost 100% sure it has been long terminated, at least as a joint project.
I do indeed read what You post ... and how do deduct that this engine is a Izd.30 ??
Again it is taken at Salyut, which lost with its own fifth generation contender to Saturn, who is building the Izd. 30.
They clearly said in Your post "they did research for the new engine for PAKFA in the time period of 2013-2014".... so IMO it is more likely an image of their losing contender, a prototype of the TVC-nozzle but tell me why should or even COULD it be an Izd. 30??
Seeing an Airbus A.320 standing at Boeing's factory in Seattle surely does not mean Boeing builds the A.320 now.
Irrelevant when we are talking about the side bay ! Period. It seems as if You are the one who does not read what's going on? Even more to the K-30 see my reply above.
b787
Captain