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Stealthflanker

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Short answer: it depends.
But the important part is that actual submarine combat does not boil down to that.

Well it's big part of it. Like what is the point in say improving the gear assembly tolerance from 0.1 to 0.01mm, rafting etc. or existence of a "quiet speed" of 3-8 knot.

Let's say Russian subs are noisy but if the noise is heard at the distance of only 2-3 km or less can you even track the submarine propely in the first place ?

On the models tho i am still sticking to good old E.Miasnikov's paper here, particularly on this part :

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pmc

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As for 636.3 there is very little in terms of silencing improvement. The upgrade mostly concerns changes to machinery and parts that were forced by the collapse of Soviet industrial base and new generation of electronic systems. 636.3 is objectively the worst currently produced conventional submarine but Russian propaganda very stronk and submariners are quiet as fish so normies don't know any better.
i am not sure where you get this information. 636.3 high quality product and is exported.
As Europe get more depended on Algeria. it is highly likely more advance weopons from Russia will end up in Algeria.

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Sinnavuuty

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i am not sure where you get this information. 636.3 high quality product and is exported.
As Europe get more depended on Algeria. it is highly likely more advance weopons from Russia will end up in Algeria.
I also wanted to know where he got that statement from. Now I'm curious about it. Let's wait for him to post.

Interestingly, this vaguely reminded me when Rostov-on-Don B-237 went for a "walk" in the vicinity on the NATO lake called "Mediterranean", the Russian submarine simply disappeared from NATO radars on March 19 2021, spent a week looking for the submarine and did not find it, all attempts with anti-submarine forces failed. NATO propaganda that is the most ingrained here in the West claimed that no such "hunt" for the Russian submarine took place when OSINT sources on Twitter posted the Flightradar footage of the US Navy's P-8A and other NATO aircraft searching for the Russian submarine. in the area during the period. If these are the worst conventional submarines in the world, I really wanted to know how the best submarine in the world would perform.
 

gelgoog

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The Kilo is a pretty large diesel submarine and it can fire the Kalibr cruise missile.

A lot of the other diesel sub classes can only fire torpedos or much lower performance Harpoon or Exocet missiles without appreciable land attack capability.

Kilo has 2350 tons displacement. It is larger than Type 214 or Skorpene.
 

Sinnavuuty

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I also wanted to know where he got that statement from. Now I'm curious about it. Let's wait for him to post.

Interestingly, this vaguely reminded me when Rostov-on-Don B-237 went for a "walk" in the vicinity on the NATO lake called "Mediterranean", the Russian submarine simply disappeared from NATO radars on March 19 2021, spent a week looking for the submarine and did not find it, all attempts with anti-submarine forces failed. NATO propaganda that is the most ingrained here in the West claimed that no such "hunt" for the Russian submarine took place when OSINT sources on Twitter posted the Flightradar footage of the US Navy's P-8A and other NATO aircraft searching for the Russian submarine. in the area during the period. If these are the worst conventional submarines in the world, I really wanted to know how the best submarine in the world would perform.
This forum is particularly a place where people can statements without relying on evidence, but whoever is on the other side of the argument asking for evidence about the other party's allegations seems to be the wrong side for this forum, even more so when the other party claims to give bold claims to be the "worst submarine in the world", when various sources in the world claim to be one of the best submarines in the world in operation.

Honestly, I'm getting fed up with this. I will break my rule of citing other forums, but on other forums to rely on any statement you have to provide evidence of your claim, especially with such strong statements. Now it is enough to say that "I have classified information I cannot give further details" that you are not obliged to support the claim with evidence.

I repeat: I'm sick of it.
 

Soldier30

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Refueling of military equipment with fuel and its transportation was shown by the Russian Ministry of Defense. To avoid detection, military vehicles are refueled from hidden field refueling points.


Russian servicemen conducted exercises to decontaminate equipment and terrain from chemical contamination.

 

gelgoog

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TsAGI continues working on Slon transport aircraft​

Tuesday August 9, 2022 12:14 MSK

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Scientists at TsAGI (a part of NRC “Zhukovsky Institute”) are working to improve the aerodynamic configuration of Slon (‘the Elephant’), the new heavy transport aircraft. The work is performed under a state contract with the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation within the ‘Technologies—Transport—2’ R&D.
Earlier, two cycles of research were performed on this project aimed at studying the aerodynamics of the aircraft at different flight velocities, with visualized model flow to identify the areas of possible optimization.
Basing on results of the tests, the scientists modified the Slon layout. They added an enlarged fuselage cross section for carrying large-sized cargos, a lighter wing-fuselage junction fairing, pylons of improved profiles with nacelles matching the PD-35 engine (relevant nacelles simplified in shape were previously used), and several options of wingtips.
At the next stage, TsAGI Research-and-Manufacturing Complex designed and manufactured new units for aerodynamic model of the airplane. Almost all units had complex surfaces; each surface was processed with a CNC machine. The maximum length of the improved aircraft model is about 2 m; its wingspan is 1.8 m.
Particular attention is paid to removable wingtips of various configurations. Comparing the wingtips’ impact on aerodynamic quality during tests, the specialists will be able to choose the best option.
Till the end of this year, the aircraft model with new elements will have been tested in the T-106 variable-density wind tunnel. The scientists will study its main cruise mode performance, and will confirm the calculated efficiency of modifications.
‘The Slon aircraft is optimized primarily for civilian use. The enlarged fuselage will allow for larger cargo volumes transported at the estimated flight range, and the wing with modified tips will provide high aerodynamic performance,’ said Aleksandr Krutov, Researcher, Center for Complex Integration of Technologies, TsAGI.

The project aims at researching advanced aircraft technologies to replace the An‑124 Ruslan long-range heavy transport aircraft. The Slon will be used for transporting heavy and large-size freight for about 7000 km at 850 kph. The required length of the runway is 3 km. The maximum payload is 180 tons (for comparison: An-124 has a 120-ton maximum payload). The Slon is designed for PD-35 Russian advanced bypass turbojet engines.
 

Soldier30

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At the last forum "Army-2022", the Russian combat module "Hunter" with the installed stabilization system was shown for the first time. The module is equipped with a gyroscopic system that provides stabilization in two planes, and in the marine version of the module - in three. The module has a system for diagnosing the health of the system, equipped with a day camera, range finder, thermal imager and automatic target tracking. Armament module 12.7 mm machine gun "Kord". The television channel of the module's sight allows detecting an armored personnel carrier-type target at a distance of up to 5,000 meters, and a thermal imaging channel at a distance of up to 2,500 meters. The module's laser rangefinder measures distances up to 10,000 meters. The weapon station can be used as a primary or secondary weapon system for tracked and wheeled military vehicles.

 

Soldier30

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The reconnaissance optical-electronic complex "Ironiya-M" entered the special forces of Russia in 2015. The multifunctional optical-electronic complex is designed to search for the enemy and conduct surveillance of the area. The main element of the complex is an optical-electronic device weighing about 3.2 kg. The complex is equipped with a video camera, a thermal imager and a laser rangefinder. The signal from all optical devices is transmitted to a miniature monitor installed in the eyepiece. The Ironia-M complex allows you to detect equipment at a distance of up to 7 km, a thermal imager can detect a person at distances of up to 2.5 km. The Ironia complex can transmit photographs or a video signal over a closed radio channel at a distance of up to 10 km. The calculation of the observation complex consists of two people, the second person is a computer operator.

 
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