plawolf
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Are there actually any Russian naval ships in the Black Sea fleet that can actually do air defence? Those boats should have been under the SAM umbrella of friendly naval warships.
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Grigorovich could, although capped by Horizon.
Ideally she can detect inbound drone with 0.4 sqm RCS from 150 km. Engagement range with Shtil tho are only about 65-70 km. She might not be in the right place when the attack occurs.
By the time she has them in crosshair, the damage was already done.
2 frigates and (to a certain degree) one missile corvette still on trials.
One certain cruiser was the only area defense asset.
Should be three frigates plus some missile corvettes.
I wonder what is the future of India's Talwar 2 projects. If they are not going through with it, Russia will have to take them over.
generally Russian airdefense systems are old for this size of campaign against all kind of threats when they want to have both tactical and strategic SAMs over vast swath of area. It is not Just Belarus/Russia but inside Ukraine that need protection. than you have this big Crimean bridge.
Only S350, BUK-M3 and Pantsir SM can easily deal with it but they are few.
There is Pantsir M for naval that just entering on Corvettes. The export version can engage 0.3m to 2m height engagement. this give idea antiship missiles can go that low or autonomous boats.
What could be the expected lifetime of a TB2? Five days?
That mission cost to the Ukrainan army at least one drone statistically.
Time that can't be spent on frontline.
How big is the disadvantage of the Ukrainan military compared to the Russian ?
Using a weapon to make FB like vintory decrease the frontline capabilities.
Destroying two patrol boat looks well on video means less weapon system left where it needed.
Full war means you need to push everything for strategical fights. Assets that can't be used in frontline could be wasted somewhere else.
Means either :
1. Ukrainans wants to get FB likes, doesn't has sense how to fight war, and controled by mindless politicians
2. the TB2 drone useless on places where its matter.
It makes sense in the context of Ukraine waging a war of attrition on behalf of the US to bleed Russia out, with no intentions of mounting counter offensives or winning at all.
Just hoping the US sticks around long enough to make the war unaffordable for Russia. Things might change if the Republicans get a hold of the US government again, though.
Does not make sense at all, because Ukraine is bleeding out at a far faster rate than Russia. Ukraine has its gdp effectively halved by the invasion, its electrical and transportation infrastructure is severely damaged if not destroyed in many places and unable to import and export by sea due to the blockade and effective loss of ports. If Ukraine losses the south its economically crippled for life, being effectively land locked, and the south is heavy Russian speaking. A lot of Ukrainian income comes from the passage of Russian gas and oil through pipelines. All the refugees mean a significant loss of Ukrainian labor to man their factories.
It does not make sense at all because it's Ukrainian lives that are being destroyed in a far faster rate and they are of all people cannot afford a long term war that will destroy their country. The country isn't just Europe's bread basket, it's also it's basket case. Years of war will reduce the country from third world status to an Afghanistan-Syria level of status.
Not to mention the global recession that's coming.
It makes sense in the context of Ukraine doing the US's biding but we also don't what the US promised the Ukranian leadership in exchange for "sacrificing" the country, whether it is realistic at all, or if the US intends to keep its word if they suceed or fail.
At this point, it is obvious Ukraine leadership doesn't really care about the country or its people all that much so whatever keeps them going could be promises of money or even just good ol' narcisism.
The folly of it all though, is that the US will throw them under the bus if a better deal shows up elsewhere.