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Phead128

Phead128

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China is bigger than Europe + Russia + USA combined, the notion you need dozens or hundreds of tiny allies is overrated.
 
TK3600

TK3600

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Dizasta1 said:
China is on the rise, and is a a great to watch it rise. However let's not kid ourselves with the adoration of China's rise as a economic and military superpower. China's rise on the world stage means an inevitable clash between itself and the old superpower, America. As it the world has already witnessed, America is fighting to keep it's status as the world's pre-imminent superpower. America's status as a "Ruling State," which by definition means America can impose it's will on other countries, unchallenged. This status is now eroding fast, with Russia rising from the ashes of the bogus Soviet Union, like a Phoenix, and China's rise on the world stage as a superpower.

Both Russia and China seek a "multi-polar" world, which in essence is a world without a hegemon.

In order for China and Russia to truly realize the might and power of their militaries. They require allies, not some token agreements or loose alliances. Rather the formation of a bloc of countries which are stable, economically robust and politically bulletproof. These nations can and should be in a formal and stipulated alliance with both Russia and China. Not just economic alliance, but also military alliance, ironclad. If you pick up the map of the world today and correlate the political unrest around the world today in various countries. You will see that Russia's and China's list to choose allies from, is growing smaller by the day. And this does not bode well for either China or Russia.

You can have the largest navy in the world with 20 aircraft carriers and 6000 nukes. But if you don't have allies who are lock 'n' step with you in a fight to the finish against you adversaries. Then I am sorry, but such a power state would see it's demise faster than quicksand. Having a large navy has no impact against an enemy which has Japan and South Korea as it's allies, at China and Russia's doorstep. As their combined effort in the event of a war, is what would tip the scales of the old wood-board superpower, America.
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I disagree. China can stand on its own. No country is stupid enough to challenge China, giving up a huge trade partner and fight a nuclear capable country.

Alliance is not free, you must have responsibility to protect them, which tend to benefit smaller countries than large ones, AKA not China. You will see American face the problem of stretching their force thin and constantly fight pointless wars.
 
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Anlsvrthng

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asif iqbal said:
in about a decade all Soviet era warships will be gone

now Russia is going for smaller more practical warships no longer the giants from the Soviet era

sub-surface as always is the ace up Russias sleeve

army strong as always and air force is slowly modernising

by 2030 Russia will have modernised its air, land and sea forces

but by 2030 Chinas relentless drive to become a superpower will put it many times ahead of Russia

with the most emphasis on the Navy, the Chinese Navy will be a sight to see in 10 years time
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It is relative, the new russian submarines are close twice as big as the USA counterparts.

And best part of the ship sizes of the Soviet navy was due to the required size of attack missiles.

With the new ,smaller missiles the ships doesn't need as big as before.
 
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Tirdent

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The Topol Nuclear Ballistic Orchestra - Eros A

The following videos are old classics really, I suspect most military geeks will have seen at least one of them at some point. But I hadn't in a long while, and although the image quality is abysmal by modern standards, the chilling sound track after all these years still more than makes up for it! Maybe someone else will enjoy the trip down memory lane as much as I did.

Both clips show the same launch, a small satellite (named Eros A) riding into orbit on the START-1 rocket, which is simply a retired road-mobile SS-25 ICBM. First one is the better known of the two, with the sound apparently recorded close up and synchronised to imagery filmed from further away - call it the radio edit:


Less famous but equally awesome is the longer, live-in-concert version, however. Audio and video are both from the spectator's perspective, with the noise appropriately muffled and delayed, as well as audience cheers for added goose bumps:


Now where do I get one for New Year's Eve?!
 
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