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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Pak da I think has some thing of a chance the program is as old as pak fa but the mig replacement is new. The only thing I can think of is a modification to the pak fa or mig 31. Left field says perhaps merging the programs or one of the concept air craft that pre dates the t 50(like mig 1.44)?
 

MiG-29

Banned Idiot
So they are saying they will introduce a completely new interceptor to replace the Mig-31, and a completely new stealth bomber...both by 2020?

Unless they are already very far along, I just do not see this as possible.

Perhaps having a prototype of each by 2020...or having them in flight testing by 2020...but agin, unless they have already got prototypes flying or coming out right now, having them in service and full production by 2020 is very hard to believe.

the MiG-31 replacement perhaps will enter service in 2020, but in few numbers, i think is believeable, doable, if they just informed the world about it but the project is atually older
 

MiG-29

Banned Idiot
Pak da I think has some thing of a chance the program is as old as pak fa but the mig replacement is new. The only thing I can think of is a modification to the pak fa or mig 31. Left field says perhaps merging the programs or one of the concept air craft that pre dates the t 50(like mig 1.44)?
7 years is enough time to field a fighter, 3-5 years of studies, 3-5 years of test flights, that gives a 2020-2023 time frame, it is doable specially if the engines are ready, for example a modification of type 30 used on PAKFA.

PAKFA`S intake are capable of Mach 3, so is possible they already have the knowledge to use some elements of PAKFA and build a new interceptor from scratch using some already designed technologies
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Mig that may have been true once, but not today you can only leverage so much. The key issues for a true replacement of the mig31 would be the stress involved. Foxhound and Blackbird are the only two aircraft that could claim regularly to fly in the upper most super sonic speed zones both demanded a lot of special materials due to the heat, as well as aero dynamics add to this. I dont think any one in the world is going to design a new air frame without LO features that is not just a toss it together problem. It means years of study issue two is radar in the intercept role you need a powerful radar and BVRM taking the unit from the mig 31m wont do after all you are looking to replace it, and the pak fa radar is meant for a different mission type. Issue three engines presumably we are looking at two, both have to function at speeds and temperatures that kill a normal engine.. Hell even the set in the current mig Fox-series start to break if the pilot is heavy on the throttle. Issue four testing that bird is going to have to be put through the ringer not just the normal test series but one targeted to its ultra high speed environment. Finally the Russians are looking to have this thing in service and mig 31 out of service by 2028. The only way that would be feasible is if they were already testing it and the only craft we know in the active testing is the Pak fa. Unless they hid away developments based on earlier concept craft I just dont see a modern fighter air craft being cranked out that fast.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Mig that may have been true once, but not today you can only leverage so much. The key issues for a true replacement of the mig31 would be the stress involved. Foxhound and Blackbird are the only two aircraft that could claim regularly to fly in the upper most super sonic speed zones both demanded a lot of special materials due to the heat, as well as aero dynamics add to this. I dont think any one in the world is going to design a new air frame without LO features that is not just a toss it together problem. It means years of study issue two is radar in the intercept role you need a powerful radar and BVRM taking the unit from the mig 31m wont do after all you are looking to replace it, and the pak fa radar is meant for a different mission type. Issue three engines presumably we are looking at two, both have to function at speeds and temperatures that kill a normal engine.. Hell even the set in the current mig Fox-series start to break if the pilot is heavy on the throttle. Issue four testing that bird is going to have to be put through the ringer not just the normal test series but one targeted to its ultra high speed environment. Finally the Russians are looking to have this thing in service and mig 31 out of service by 2028. The only way that would be feasible is if they were already testing it and the only craft we know in the active testing is the Pak fa. Unless they hid away developments based on earlier concept craft I just dont see a modern fighter air craft being cranked out that fast.

Well unless the Russians can include the licensing to the Ukraine it is possible.
 

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From some video that I have seen on youtube that was talking about the BMD-4, it slightly talked about the Backcha-U turret being equipped or possible implementation to BMP-1, BMP-2, T-55, T-64 and T-72. I was wondering if Russia ever use the turret outside of BMP-3 and BMD-4
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
7 years is enough time to field a fighter, 3-5 years of studies, 3-5 years of test flights, that gives a 2020-2023 time frame, it is doable specially if the engines are ready, for example a modification of type 30 used on PAKFA.

PAKFA`S intake are capable of Mach 3, so is possible they already have the knowledge to use some elements of PAKFA and build a new interceptor from scratch using some already designed technologies

it is doable, but not for the Russian :p
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I dont think any modern fighter could be moved along that fast by any one. not europe not the US not China and not Russia, Its way to fast. if he said a new intercepter by 2023 may be, 2025 sure. but 2020 only works if a lot of the work was already done.
 
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MiG-29

Banned Idiot
Mig that may have been true once, but not today you can only leverage so much. The key issues for a true replacement of the mig31 would be the stress involved. Foxhound and Blackbird are the only two aircraft that could claim regularly to fly in the upper most super sonic speed zones both demanded a lot of special materials due to the heat, as well as aero dynamics add to this. I dont think any one in the world is going to design a new air frame without LO features that is not just a toss it together problem. It means years of study issue two is radar in the intercept role you need a powerful radar and BVRM taking the unit from the mig 31m wont do after all you are looking to replace it, and the pak fa radar is meant for a different mission type. Issue three engines presumably we are looking at two, both have to function at speeds and temperatures that kill a normal engine.. Hell even the set in the current mig Fox-series start to break if the pilot is heavy on the throttle. Issue four testing that bird is going to have to be put through the ringer not just the normal test series but one targeted to its ultra high speed environment. Finally the Russians are looking to have this thing in service and mig 31 out of service by 2028. The only way that would be feasible is if they were already testing it and the only craft we know in the active testing is the Pak fa. Unless they hid away developments based on earlier concept craft I just dont see a modern fighter air craft being cranked out that fast.

It is just my opinion, we need to wait and see

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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
New T-50 Fighter Jet to Enter Service in 2016 – Putin
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15:03 25/04/2013
Russia’s fifth-generation T-50 fighter jet will enter service with the country’s armed forces in 2016, and not 2015 as was previously announced, President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday.

MOSCOW, April 25 (RIA Novosti) – Russia’s fifth-generation T-50 fighter jet will enter service with the country’s armed forces in 2016, and not 2015 as was previously announced, President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday.

“The T-50 fifth generation jet should go into serial production and enter service in 2016,” Putin said at a live Q&A session with the Russian public.

The Defense Ministry had earlier said the jet would be ready in 2015.

Russia will start state flight tests of the T-50 in 2014, United Aircraft Corporation's President Mikhail Pogosyan said on Tuesday.

The T-50, also known as PAK-FA (future tactical fighter aircraft), first flew in January 2010 and was presented to the public at the Moscow Air Show in 2011.

The T-50, which will be the core of Russia's future fighter fleet, is a fifth-generation multirole fighter aircraft featuring elements of "stealth" technology," super-maneuverability, super-cruise capability (supersonic flight without use of afterburner), and an advanced avionics suite including an X-band active phased-array radar.

India will also buy a fighter aircraft based on the T-50, known as the FGFA (fifth-generation fighter aircraft).

United Aircraft Corporation is the state holding company uniting Russia's aircraft building industry including Sukhoi, a military and civil aircraft manufacturer.
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