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Pointblank

Senior Member
My view on what to expect.

US missiles in Poland and Czech Republic is going to mean tit for tat, Russian missiles sold or deployed to Iran and Syria, like S-300.

Except we already know the limitations and capabilities of S-300; some of our new NATO allies have the latest versions of them and have allowed us to crawl all over them. The Russians on the other hand, not so.
 

Skywatcher

Captain
Possibly the S-400, if it works. Some of the professionals I talked to aren't very thrilled about said S-400, particularly at the systems integration part.
 

antimatter

Banned Idiot
how many yrs the russian are ahead of CHina in terms of overall military defense technolgies?

Is it safe to say by 2014 when the J-xx, first carrier coming out, China should be at least equal in footing in terms of defence tech. whatever Russia produce, CHina can make it equal or better.

CHina is ahead of Russia in semiconductor, therefore should able to surpass them at least in sensor tech shortly.
 

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"Russia considering going back into Cuba with a base."

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"Russian nuclear-capable bombers returning to Cuba"


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The missiles to Cuba seems to a reaction to the navy ships in Georgia...

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"He said Russia's reaction to NATO ships ``will be calm, without any sort of hysteria. But of course, there will be an answer.'' Asked by exactly what measures Russia would take, Mr Putin answered: ``You'll see.''"

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Maybe also in Venezuela.

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"Chavez backs Russian recognition of Georgia regions"
 
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lilzz

Banned Idiot
now this georgia crisis unfolding, russia is really looking for CHina to back her up.

i think china and russia can enter strategic partnership,maybe covertly.
China will become the outsourcing manufacturing places for russian strategic weapons. Russia's military complex is falling apart, it cannot keep up with the demand.. soon, the production will move to China.
 

RedMercury

Junior Member
I find that unlikely. Russia will not hand an up-and-coming regional power its last good cards. An overt alliance is probably out of the question, given the Chinese leadership's current foreign policy approach. Perhaps there will be more dealings behind closed doors, but I don't see outsourcing of strategic weapons as one of them.
 

lilzz

Banned Idiot
the trend is already starting /w outsourcing helicopters in chengdu, soon will the transport plane, and then warships and submarines.
 

Maggern

Junior Member
Transport helicopters are a completely different matter from submarines and destroyers. Additionally, I was under the impression that the helicopter plant in chengdu is not the only one. I can see that Russia would like to expand its military supply complex, perhaps in a different, low-cost country, but to move its entire military-industrial production base to foreign territory would be a strategic blunder unlike any other, no matter how good relations they have with each other. The US wouldn't even let Britain have access to the most advanced technology on the JSF, even though they have perhaps the closest relationship of any two developed countries in the world today.

Russia and China I think IS in a strategic partnership (but I guess there are different definitions of this), most importantly through the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. The trouble in the last few years has been that Russia's ambitions have grown exponentionally. While China still tries to calm the west, its friend to the north is moving its chess pieces to counter NATO (and makes this known too). We have yet to see if Russia and China is in a short period of pragmatic partnership now, or if China gets ambitious enough to side strongly with Russia.

Yet I feel the discussion of a Russia-China partnership is somehow off-topic, so I'll shut up now.
 
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