There's zero chance Indonesia buying it.
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Official footage of the Russian fifth-generation Su-57 fighter jet in flight at the Aero India exhibition has been published. The aircraft is piloted by test pilot and Hero of Russia Sergey Bogdan. Aero India is expected to feature a competition between the world's two most advanced fifth-generation fighter jets, the Russian Su-57 and the US F-35 Lightning II. Both countries will compete for the right to join the Indian Air Force's future fighter fleet. Both aircraft have advantages and disadvantages. The Su-57 can reach speeds of up to 2,450 km/h, while the F-35 can reach speeds of up to 1,930 km/h. The Su-57 has two engines, which increases the aircraft's survivability. The Su-57 is also more maneuverable in close combat. Both aircraft are barely noticeable to radar, but the F-35 is considered to be less noticeable because it is built with a small radar cross-section (RCS) and is covered with radar-absorbing materials. It is worth noting that the F-35 coating is sensitive to sunlight, salty wind and supersonic flight, it begins to peel off, it needs to be renewed every 2-3 years. When storing the aircraft in the sun, the coating deteriorates in 3 months. The production of the F-35 has already been established, and the production of the Su-57 has just begun to increase. The F-35 has more advanced electronics, but there are still problems with it, there is a lot of information about this on the network. The longest-range American missile AIM-54 Phoenix, air-to-air, has a range of up to 184 km. R-37M missiles, Su-57 aircraft, can hit large targets at a range of up to 400 km, information about them is on the channel. Estimated cost: Su-57 about 35-40 million dollars, F-35 from 80 to 100 million dollars. According to the latest news, the Su-57 is an excellent maneuverable fifth-generation fighter and India needs something similar, said Indian Air Marshal Anil Chopra.
How is the Su-57 only $35-40mm USD per aircraft?
Not looking to outright dismiss such a claim, but sounds too good to be true.
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I'm not sure it is "zero" but certainly it appears a distant prospect. Indonesia flirts with many acquisitions but commits to few. For many years there was a dance around Su-35 but American CAATSA sanctions put a stop to that. I suspect that the recent acquisition of Rafale is a mild rebuke to Washington in that respect, but there is little to be gained by risking its wrath directly. Of course the channels of communication should remain open and may eventually prove productive. It's unfortunate that Indonesia also appears to have retreated from its participation in KF-X.
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Yeah for Indonesia, we need a strong political and financial backing.
Typically our foreign arms acquisition went through some form of foreign financial backers be it bank or some other financial institutions. They're all western origini. Even our Su-30 programs were funded by Singaporean bank. Now ? Finding banks or lenders that willing to do business with Russians are hard.
Thus we have to use hard cash from our state budget which termed "Rupiah Murni" Which then converted to USD because you know BRICS have no real international currency and Russians dont want to be paid with Ruble. This has risk that it directly used our Foreign reserve, which not much and it used for so many things already. Our banks which have overseas branch then act as lender and process the transaction. For small things it's fine but when things goes Billion USD worth.. You typically dont want that as it affects your ability to say, control your own money's exchange rate. That is also the concern for the Turkish weapon deals.
Indonesian Rupiah are on the lowest point already since 1998. Thus we are unlikely to put additional risk by having difficult scheme to get some Russian firepower. The Russians themselves do offer some scheme but this is risky, what if Trump hit us with sanction ? You're putting over 270 M Indonesian and 60% of them are broke at risk. We even have disinflation 0.76% inflation rate.. which kinda means our economy are slowing down considerably.
Rafale deals are backed not only politically, but also financially by BNP Paribas. All we need to prepare is the RMP (Rupiah Murni Pendamping) Which is fraction of the project's worth about 7.5% as installment. Our PPA Deal also backed by Paribas and Credit Agricole which is another French bank institution.
China?