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Miragedriver

Miragedriver

Brigadier
As Jeff just stated. It is to replace the old aircraft in the Egyptian inventory. Such as the:

82 Mirage III and V
56 MiG-21
57 J-7

I don’t see the 220 F-16’s or the 20 or so Mirage 2000 being replace in the near future.
 
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Skywatcher

Captain
Jeff Head said:
They would probably replace older Egyptian aircraft and not the F-16s IMHO, if such a deal is made.

As to the US relations... it's hard to blame the Egyptians. after the Obama Administration's fiasco of avidly supporting the Muslim Bortherhood in Egypt. The military, the securlar muslims in Egypt, and the non-musilm population, including the large Coptic christian population in Egypt all were aghast at that support and ultimately overthrew the Muslim Bortherhood to get rid of their much more radical ways.

The Obama administration has never really stepped back from their support of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Egyptians have once again named them a terror group and are hunting down their leaders.

So, the Egyptians are not anxious at all to jump on the Obama band wagon. As a result, they are tendering other offers.

This is a terrible consequence (among many) of Obama's "leading from behind," and his afinity for organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood. Disasterous US foreign policy under this man IMHO.
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The weirdness involving the July 2013 also involved the Salafists parties, of all people, joining in the backlash against the Muslim Brotherhood.
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
About 200 old in my notes
32 F-4E
53 Mirage 5
57 J-7
63 Mig-21

Can be usefull for EAF buy JF-17 also...but then finish US Military/Financial Aid, normal.
 
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PanAsian

Major
Skywatcher said:
The weirdness involving the July 2013 also involved the Salafists parties, of all people, joining in the backlash against the Muslim Brotherhood.
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The Saudis, who have the Salafists in their pockets, are no fans of the Muslim Brotherhood as their political philosophies are diametrically opposed. The Saudis use religion to buttress their tribal system based monarchy while the Muslim Brotherhood uses religion to create a civil society replacing the tribal system, and thereby any monarchy based on that.

The Obama administration had to walk a fine line between supporting democracy and the fairly elected Muslim Brotherhood government and maintaining ties with the secular Egyptian military who wants no part of either a Muslim Brotherhood style (a la Turkey) or a Saudi style religious government.

The tricky position the US has to tackle right now is to re-establish a stalemate between the Saudi/Sunni camp and the Iran/Shiite camp in the overall Middle East region which was upset by the 2003 invasion of Iraq and spiralled from there. Both the Muslim Brotherhood and the Egyptian military suits American interests as neither would lend their weight to the Saudi/Sunni camp which since the beginning of the Syrian civil war has a significant advantage over the Iran/Shiite one. If either of these camps manage to dominate the Middle East they will then need to find a new outlet for their extremist proxies who would very likely target the US.
 
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Skywatcher

Captain
PanAsian said:
The Saudis, who have the Salafists in their pockets, are no fans of the Muslim Brotherhood as their political philosophies are diametrically opposed. The Saudis use religion to buttress their tribal system based monarchy while the Muslim Brotherhood uses religion to create a civil society replacing the tribal system, and thereby any monarchy based on that.

The Obama administration had to walk a fine line between supporting democracy and the fairly elected Muslim Brotherhood government and maintaining ties with the secular Egyptian military who wants no part of either a Muslim Brotherhood style (a la Turkey) or a Saudi style religious government.

The tricky position the US has to tackle right now is to re-establish a stalemate between the Saudi/Sunni camp and the Iran/Shiite camp in the overall Middle East region which was upset by the 2003 invasion of Iraq and spiralled from there. Both the Muslim Brotherhood and the Egyptian military suits American interests as neither would lend their weight to the Saudi/Sunni camp which since the beginning of the Syrian civil war has a significant advantage over the Iran/Shiite one. If either of these camps manage to dominate the Middle East they will then need to find a new outlet for their extremist proxies who would very likely target the US.
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The reason that the Brotherhood fell was that they were inept at ruling (for some reason, being able to hand out bread suddenly made everyone think they had the organization cohesion of say, the CCP), along with their inability to politically placate anyone who wasn't in the MB, whether left or right. Morsi had to go, if nothing else, because he couldn't rule Egypt (witness his unwillingness to implement the economic reform that Sissi, a devout and conservative Muslim by any accounts, is undertaking).
 
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delft

Brigadier
Skywatcher said:
The reason that the Brotherhood fell was that they were inept at ruling (for some reason, being able to hand out bread suddenly made everyone think they had the organization cohesion of say, the CCP), along with their inability to politically placate anyone who wasn't in the MB, whether left or right. Morsi had to go, if nothing else, because he couldn't rule Egypt (witness his unwillingness to implement the economic reform that Sissi, a devout and conservative Muslim by any accounts, is undertaking).
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Don't forget that the Egyptian army owns a large part of the economy so it was easy to sabotage same until sufficient people were fed up with the situation. Remember the many interruptions of the electricity supply that ended after the coup?
Btw it seems they are back.
 
Miragedriver

Miragedriver

Brigadier
Delegation of Shanghai Cooperation Organization visits Komsomolsk-on-Amur aviation plant
[video=youtube;t5pCwa2phiI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t5pCwa2phiI[/video]



I will now get back to bottling my Malbec
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
Mig-35, as Mig-29SMT carry more fuel, new tank behind the cockpit but anyone know if Mig-29M/M2 also get it ?

mig35.jpg
Mig-35-1.jpg

Rumors Egypt would like 24 and now Peru about 10. VVS about 30 ?
 
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