Russia Vs Georgia..a widening crisis!
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Many of the military, ex-military, and some defence industry types here will recognize the likely types/sorts of sources where Utelore got much of his info, and how reliable such sources may or may not be. While events overtook or disproved some of what was anticipated by his sources (war has a nastly habit of turning out differently from expectations), those sources were usually a little ahead of most public outlets, and in any case were much more often than not directly and factually correct when reporting troop movements and the units involved. Even if the expected consequences of the aforesaid often turned out very differently than Ute's sources expected - though sometimes they were also quite correct - the information he provided us was generally accurate, and a good deal more detailed than most of the public outlets provided at the same points in time, especially earlier on during the war.
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With the Russians hovering only 18 miles from Tblisi, according to BBC, and elsewhere fanning out across much of Georgia, it seems that a de facto Russian occupation of most of Georgia may be in the making. It will be interesting to see if it becomes permanent or not, and how the Georgians may react. Undoubtedly the greatest restraint is now being exercised on the Georgian side, for the moment at least.
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With the Russians hovering only 18 miles from Tblisi, according to BBC, and elsewhere fanning out across much of Georgia, it seems that a de facto Russian occupation of most of Georgia may be in the making. It will be interesting to see if it becomes permanent or not, and how the Georgians may react. Undoubtedly the greatest restraint is now being exercised on the Georgian side, for the moment at least.
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Pointblank
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I call BS; CF personnel are not allowed to use personal weapons while on active duty. They are only allowed to use issued weapons. Any deviation from this rule results in immediate disciplinary hearings, up to and including court martial and a dishonourable discharge (which would show up on a criminal records check).
HAHA, you are correct, I am not a CF. In fact I have never fired a shot. Anyway, I am a teacher in Hong Kong. What I am trying to do here is to show that everyone and BS about themselves and about the things happened in the war. As audience, we need to decide what is right and what is wrong, but we do not have to discredit people in front of them. What is right and what is wrong, who can actually decide that? Maybe everyone here is wrong except the person whom we think he is BS. And you guys are like my students, once got into a hot topic throw everything at each other. Remember, everytime you discredit someone, you are actually discrediting yourself. So as long as we believe in freedom of speech here, let us all BS and enjoy ourselves.
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Haha... ok fine... you are right, I did not serve in Canadian Army. I am a teacher in Hong Kong. I am just trying to point out that everyone here can BS about themselves and the things about the war. But how could we know if that person is BS or not? I think we need to be able to judge which source is reliable and which is not. But maybe we do not have to say that out loud. There is old saying in Chinese "Everybody drunk but me", maybe the one we think BS is actually saying the truth. After all we have no way to confirm what actually happened on the front. I always teach my students never ever discredit anyone in public or in this case in Forum, because when you discredit others you are discrediting yourself as well. So I think as long as there is freedom of speech, lets all BS and let the audience to decide which is right and which is not.
On the topic of appearances, I thought the Georgian's had nice equipment but many look very green whereas the Rssians have many who seem much more experienced somehow. Maybe it is their casual poses that gives me this impression, like they are more accustomed to the waiting part of war. Having said that, I've never been in a war.
You are Orwellian, and untruthful. You have no concept of which you speak. Please do not discrace military men and women with your Orwellian and untruthful posts. Hell, you should not even post now.
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Mr T
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So the Russians have said they will pull out from tomorrow onwards. Perhaps if anyone reads a credible report (from a non-Russian agency) that they are doing that they could post it here?
I hope this won't be the case, but suppose the Russians drag their feet or otherwise are seen to be breaking their word - how should European states, the US and other countries respond? Surely Russia would be starting to use up its get-out-of-jail-free cards by repeatedly promising to pull out but then keeping troops in Georgia.
I hope this won't be the case, but suppose the Russians drag their feet or otherwise are seen to be breaking their word - how should European states, the US and other countries respond? Surely Russia would be starting to use up its get-out-of-jail-free cards by repeatedly promising to pull out but then keeping troops in Georgia.