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They are making a huge mistake then because Chinese tools are often much more "open source" than western ones and compete on performance and cost rather than regulatory moats, while their own industry is quite artisinal at this point and do not benefit from economies of scale.
I think they do buy the tools, and at least for sure they widely buy the resulting products from them.

The question is more if China can make enough to fulfil Russia's demand, when most indicators show that China is struggling to keep up with its own home demand first.
 

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The Russians buy what they can. But of course if they do buy Chinese equipment it is not like this will be widely advertised.
It is not just China but alot of things they dont advertize and there reasons that they will have to build independent supply chains to maintain confidence of information security, maintain foreign relations and decrease migration (higher automation AI).

This Russia central Bank Head. what is her primary quality?
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ELVIRA NABIULLINA – THE SMARTEST TATAR IN THE WORLD​


this last Month again by Putin. What do you think who he is behind it to have upto 10 in the family and if it does not happen than? I am sure he has data who has real wealth.
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I repeat, it is necessary to take care of the population, to increase the birth rate, to create conditions for people to have a large family, to make it fashionable to have many children, as it used to be in Russia in the past – seven, nine, ten people in families.



Muslim Volga Tatars (Kazan) and Chief Rabbi. These people have way high status to shape the country. it is not directly obvious.
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Not true. The Russians are buying imported equipment from China, South Korea, and Taiwan to do chip packaging for example.
I not saying just importing a few tools because they clearly are getting some semiconductor manufacturing tools from China but I mean a collaboration in R&D between the MIIT from China and the Ministry of Industry of Russia, given that China already has a lot of the tools needed for the process the node that they want to produce, that could cut developing time and cost for both countries.
 

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I don't think the Russians are interested on working with China in this area, in fact I think they alright dismiss any progress that China have in semiconductors. So looks like they are planning to build everything themselves and somehow using an "unrealistically" low amount of money to develop all the tools needed in a fab.
If there is fab building boom in Russia is possible that Chinese companies like KingSemi, AMEC and Naura will try to market their products in Russia but because most of Russia semiconductor manufacturing projects come from the state its remains to be seen if they are willing to accept foreign products in their fabs.

It is possible that it's the Chinese firms who are limiting their exposure to Russia out of fear of US sanctions? There were also reports of issues with bank transers between Russia and China.
 

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he didnot give figure but you can observe his confidence in industrial production. most of the stuff is built without any foreign investment. this what is called a country that dont need foreign investment.
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Hundreds of factories have opened in Russia, industrial production is growing - Putin​

MOSCOW, October 9. /TASS/. Hundreds of new factories have appeared in Russia in recent years, and industrial production is growing. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin during the launch of new industrial facilities in the regions.

"In recent years, we have opened hundreds of new production sites and workshops, plants, factories, among them - real industrial giants," the head of state stated. As an example, he cited the Udokan mining and metallurgical plant in Zabaikalsky Krai, the Taishet aluminum plant in the Irkutsk region, and Zapsibneftekhim in the Tyumen region.

"In general, our industrial production is growing, the manufacturing industries are showing positive dynamics, they are developing ahead of schedule," Putin emphasized.

long interview. 2000 EV buses in Moscow alone. and ICE Lada models getting converted into Electric.
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Sergey Chemezov: “We are doing everything possible to ensure Russia’s technological sovereignty”​

Today, nature conservation is a priority all over the world. Without a healthy environment, there will be no health. What projects does Rostec present in this area?

Sergey Chemezov:
We were among the first industrial companies to move from discussions to action. On the roads of Moscow, as well as in Kursk, Perm, Volgograd, Lipetsk and many other Russian cities, you can see economical and environmentally friendly electric buses from our KAMAZ. In Moscow alone, there are already almost two thousand of them, and this directly affects the state of the atmosphere in the city.

Currently, a project to create a passenger "electric car" is underway in partnership with private investors. According to the plan, serial production of this car will start in the middle of next year. There is great interest in the new product - more than 100 thousand pre-orders have already been collected.

AvtoVAZ has also begun industrial production of an electric car: since the end of September, the LADA e-Largus has been in production, and testing of the electric version of the flagship sedan Lada Aura is underway.

It is obvious that internal combustion engines are slowly but inexorably becoming a thing of the past. They are being replaced by electric vehicles, which are more efficient and less harmful to the environment.

some recent news about Carbon fiber since they are going to use it in practically every thing. so the scale of industrial production will multiply.
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Scientists from St. Petersburg State University of Industrial Technologies and Design have developed carbon fiber for fuel batteries of Russian aircraft​


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Russia has developed a technology for producing a continuous carbon fiber composite for 3D printing​


long interview but only higlight main Civil Airliners, unmanned and helicopter
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“Our goal is to make Russia a leading country in the field of composite technologies”​

Alexander Tyunin, CEO of Rosatom's Composite Division, on the division's achievements and new tasks
What is the current state of affairs for you in Russian aircraft manufacturing?


— The division is a supplier for serial aircraft, since the MS-21 has already entered serial production. Over the past two years, the volume of materials that we supply to aircraft manufacturers has doubled. In addition, the Russian government has approved a program for the development of aviation equipment, in which, of course, the emphasis is on scaling up the aircraft fleet based on the MS-21, TU-214. So, these supplies alone will fully load our carbon fiber production site in Tatarstan from 2035. In addition, a program for the development of unmanned aerial vehicles has been approved, our materials are actively used in helicopter technology. We need to scale up production capacities for all materials, which is what we are going to do.


scale of exhibition. they are expecting 70,000 people. Its in Arabic so expect people from there.
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Moscow hosts international exhibition in the beauty industry with the participation of representatives from 20 countries​

 

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there hardly stuff published about Armenia but Russia trade is going to get double with that county to reach $16b.
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Certainly, it makes sense to begin with economic matters. Our trade and economic relations are progressing robustly and effectively. Trade between our countries totalled $7.4 billion last year, and in the first six months of this year, it grew 2.5 times, exceeding $8.3 billion. If we continue at this rate, this year's trade could reach $14–16 billion, marking an all-time high.


They are expecting big increase in Indonesian students for studying STEM in Russia.
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Hashim: Prabowo Will Send 20,000 Indonesian Students to Study STEM in Russia​


Russian Economics University open branch in UAE.
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Plekhanov Russian State University of Economics holds​

opening ceremony of new campus in Dubai​




If you read the tire specification of Atom EV vehicle. This is not for a compact EV but more of heavy sports car. It will be manufactured at Kirov Plant. EV tires can easily several times expensive than ICE vehicle.
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The press service of JSC Kama told what tires will be equipped with the new
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tires with ELECT technology were chosen for the Atom ; the electric car is provided with a
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model specially adapted to the domestic car, its characteristics and operating conditions . It is noted that ELECT technology reduces rolling resistance, which allows saving energy while driving.

In addition, the Cinturato P7 model was adapted specifically for the features of electric vehicles, for example, to work with the high torque of the electric motor, the tire grip on the road was improved, the tire structure was strengthened for the weight of the new Russian electric car and the permitted load indicator (max) was increased. Wear resistance, taking into account the increased mechanical impacts to which tires on "electric trains" are exposed, was also increased.

The "tires" have been certified in Russia according to European standards and will be manufactured at the Pirelli plant in Kirov. Here are the sizes and characteristics of the tires for
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— Dimensions: 215/55 R17

— Load index: 98 (up to 750 kg per tire)

— Speed index: V (up to 240 km/h)

— Tyre weight: 10 kg +/- 3%.

— Recommended pressure is 2.5 bar.
 

gelgoog

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The main issue with the Atom car, assuming it gets built and sold, is that will probably not be cheap enough for most people in Russia to buy.
Such a car would work well inside Russian cities like Moscow, St. Petersburg, or others, but it needs to have the right price.
 

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The price is right as it has rear space and comfort of Toyota Camry with software even more advanced than Tesla.
Its success will depend on whether it can handle working 24/7 as Taxi and Car sharing. Electric prices are very cheap in Russia. The other brands hardly gave more than 1 year warranty for BEV if the vehicle is used as commercial. Price of winter tires will be additional consideration.


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The first batch of containers arrived in Russia from the UAE via the North-South International Transport Corridor​

The first batch of containers arrived in Russia from the United Arab Emirates via the International North-South Transport Corridor. The transportation was carried out with the participation of RZD Logistics and DP World, Russian Transport Minister Roman Starovoit reported on his Telegram channel.
I had a working meeting with DP World CEO Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem. It is very symbolic that we met on the day of the arrival of the first batch of containers from the UAE to Russia along the eastern branch of the North-South International Transport Corridor with the participation of Russian Railways Logistics and DP World, he wrote.
According to the minister, the role of the UAE as an international hub connected to the main centers of Asia and Africa in the context of the corridor's development is difficult to overestimate.
On Russian railways alone, based on the results of the first three quarters of 2024, transportation with the BRICS countries amounted to 222.7 million tons, which is 7.1% higher than for the same period last year, container transportation increased by 14.1%.

UAE president arrives in Moscow. Gulf Arabs like Putin stays late well passed mid night and this is the most important input for Russian economic policy.

This two Millennium Panorama hotels by the Bridge just try to finish for BRICS. Kazan developments by water front and Guests will see that Mosque and Kremlin from hotel.
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This most extensive report about Kazan aviation enterprises without the military component like Tu-160M.
The aviation training center at Kazan will train 3500 specialists per year.
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Denis Manturov visited aviation enterprises in Kazan​

October 22, 2024 07:00 Kazan, Republic of Tatarstan
First Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov visited the aircraft manufacturing enterprises of the Rostec state corporation in Kazan. Together with the head of Tatarstan Rustam Minnikhanov, he familiarized himself with the implementation of the program for the Tu-214 civil airliner and the expansion of the production capacity of the Kazan Aviation Plant named after S.P. Gorbunov. The First Deputy Prime Minister also visited the Kazan Helicopter Plant, where he assessed the progress of work on the import-substituting Ansat helicopter and inspected the latest modification of the Mi-171A3 in the Aurus configuration.

The First Deputy Prime Minister's visit took place ahead of the BRICS summit, which will be held in Kazan from October 22 to 24. Guests of the event, as part of the Made in Tatarstan exhibition, will be shown aircraft and helicopters manufactured by Rostec enterprises. In particular, the Mi-171A3 helicopter in the Aurus configuration, the modernized Ansat with an ambulance module, the Mi-38 in a business configuration, and the Tu-214 civil airliner will be on display.

First Deputy Head of UAC, Managing Director of JSC Tupolev Konstantin Timofeev reported to Denis Manturov on the modernization of the Kazan Aircraft Plant and the prospects for increasing the production of Tu-214 aircraft. Large-scale construction and reconstruction work at the enterprise is planned to be completed by the end of 2026. The process of constructing new and modernizing existing production buildings, a flight test base and a number of other facilities is currently underway.

"Of the 24 planned facilities, nine have already been commissioned, 15 facilities are at various stages of readiness. With the commissioning of all planned facilities, the enterprise will significantly reduce the production time. The new premises and equipment will allow us to begin serial production of civil aircraft and ensure the construction of 20 Tu-214 aircraft per year," said Konstantin Timofeev.

The First Deputy Prime Minister also inspected high-tech equipment for manufacturing large-sized parts, recently launched at the Kazan Aviation Plant. The new product was developed and manufactured by specialists from the STAN holding company of the Rostec state corporation. The Russian 5-axis portal milling machining center with a vacuum table will make it possible to manufacture components from aluminum alloys, including wing parts with a maximum size of up to 24 meters. At the same time, the time required to complete individual stages of the production cycle will be reduced several times. In 2025, the aircraft plant plans to commission another similar machine.

In addition, the First Deputy Prime Minister, accompanied by the Director General of the Kazan Helicopter Plant Nikolay Yakovlev, inspected the main production workshops of the enterprise. The site produces helicopters of the Mi-8/17 family, multi-purpose Mi-38 and light Ansat helicopters. Denis Manturov also inspected a prototype of the light single-engine Mi-34M1 helicopter, equipped with a VK-650 engine, which took to the air for the first time last week, and spoke with test pilot Sergei Barkov.

The First Deputy Prime Minister got acquainted with the progress of a major modernization of the helicopter manufacturing enterprise. He inspected the mechanical assembly production building under construction, visited the new building of the final assembly shop and the hangar of the flight test complex. There, Denis Manturov was shown the Mi-8MTV-1 helicopters and the latest multi-purpose Mi-38, and was also informed about the status of the import-substituting Ansat program. At the moment, all foreign components of the control system and autopilot have been replaced with domestic ones, and Russian VK-650V engines manufactured by the United Engine Corporation (part of Rostec) have been installed. Preparations are currently underway for ground checks of the aircraft, which will be followed by flight tests of the Ansat with the new engines. The first flight is planned to be completed before the end of this year.

In addition, a program to modernize the helicopter is being implemented in parallel - increasing its takeoff weight and installing an anti-icing system. The flight range will also increase to 640 km (up to 800 km with an additional fuel tank).

The Deputy Prime Minister inspected the Mi-171A3 in its latest Aurus modification, created specifically for business transportation. In this version, the helicopter can carry up to ten passengers, its cabin includes everything necessary for a comfortable flight over long distances. This helicopter is a successful example of expanding interplant cooperation. The Kazan Helicopter Plant manufactures the cargo floor and propeller blades. The Far Eastern enterprise AAK Progress manufactures composite elements - the pilot's cabin and side panels of the fuselage, the production of other elements and final assembly is carried out at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant.

Denis Manturov was also shown the newest Production and Training Center (PTC). This unique industrial and educational complex will train up to 3.5 thousand highly qualified multi-specialists per year. Classes have already begun here for students and plant employees, who are simultaneously receiving several in-demand professions. Educational programs have been developed for the center in eight areas and 38 professions. The emphasis in training is on practice, which takes up to 70% of the training time. For this purpose, the PTC has 15 production sites, 12 laboratories and 21 classrooms.

Its Russian agriculture and cargo drone company from Samara. Russia is going big on drones.
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The future is created by those who are interested in what is beyond the horizon​



Russia introduces Arabic language in the school exam.
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Russia introduces Arabic language into unified state exam​


The word North and North-South all that matter.
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Putin at the BRICS Business Forum plenary session:


As part of BRICS summit they arranged Made in Tatarstan products and that include Civilian Choppers, Aurus autos, Medical technology and ladies fashion show. This BRICS is much cultural show as Business.
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An exhibition of equipment “Made in Tatarstan” was opened in Kazan for the BRICS summit​


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It is possible that it's the Chinese firms who are limiting their exposure to Russia out of fear of US sanctions? There were also reports of issues with bank transers between Russia and China.
Bilateral record trade volume/profits as of 2024.

US attempts to sanction at an international level got shot down in the UN.

The UNSC system which ostentibly protects US allies from sanctions also work both ways, otherwise China and Russia would never have agreed to be party to it.
 
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