Russia Economy Thread

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They are making a huge mistake then because Chinese tools are often much more "open source" than western ones and compete on performance and cost rather than regulatory moats, while their own industry is quite artisinal at this point and do not benefit from economies of scale.

I think they do buy the tools, and at least for sure they widely buy the resulting products from them.

The question is more if China can make enough to fulfil Russia's demand, when most indicators show that China is struggling to keep up with its own home demand first.

 

[pmc]

The Russians buy what they can. But of course if they do buy Chinese equipment it is not like this will be widely advertised.

It is not just China but alot of things they dont advertize and there reasons that they will have to build independent supply chains to maintain confidence of information security, maintain foreign relations and decrease migration (higher automation AI).

This Russia central Bank Head. what is her primary quality?

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ELVIRA NABIULLINA – THE SMARTEST TATAR IN THE WORLD​

this last Month again by Putin. What do you think who he is behind it to have upto 10 in the family and if it does not happen than? I am sure he has data who has real wealth.

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I repeat, it is necessary to take care of the population, to increase the birth rate, to create conditions for people to have a large family, to make it fashionable to have many children, as it used to be in Russia in the past – seven, nine, ten people in families.

Muslim Volga Tatars (Kazan) and Chief Rabbi. These people have way high status to shape the country. it is not directly obvious.

 

[tokenanalyst]

Not true. The Russians are buying imported equipment from China, South Korea, and Taiwan to do chip packaging for example.

I not saying just importing a few tools because they clearly are getting some semiconductor manufacturing tools from China but I mean a collaboration in R&D between the MIIT from China and the Ministry of Industry of Russia, given that China already has a lot of the tools needed for the process the node that they want to produce, that could cut developing time and cost for both countries.

 

[HighGround]

I don't think the Russians are interested on working with China in this area, in fact I think they alright dismiss any progress that China have in semiconductors. So looks like they are planning to build everything themselves and somehow using an "unrealistically" low amount of money to develop all the tools needed in a fab.
If there is fab building boom in Russia is possible that Chinese companies like KingSemi, AMEC and Naura will try to market their products in Russia but because most of Russia semiconductor manufacturing projects come from the state its remains to be seen if they are willing to accept foreign products in their fabs.

It is possible that it's the Chinese firms who are limiting their exposure to Russia out of fear of US sanctions? There were also reports of issues with bank transers between Russia and China.