RUSSIA, CHINA to sell planes to Pakistan

Indianfighter

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The article mentions ""People's Chinese Air Force (PCAF)"" and the sale of tanks by Russia to Pakistan in the 1970s, which infact never occured.

It mentions "'It is the part of Chinese fourth generation fighter programme which sent waves of worry in India.'" (India never bothered "worrying" at the J-10. We are obsessed with the LCA and Dhruv only).

It also says, '"The Indians used to say that Israeli input was visible on design while electronics and weapon technology had the mark of French assistance."' (India never said that).

Thus, the validity of the article is doubtful.
 
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Diving Falcon

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Thus, the validity of the article is doubtful.
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The overall message of the article is quite valid because the news regarding J-10, RD-93, etc has all been settled by the PAF Air Chief and Pakistani Presidents; and that too in direct quotes.
 
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I think I read Jane's just put it out that Russia was still denying RD-93s to Pakistan and it had made that clear to China. So I think we have conflicting reports here.
 
Diving Falcon

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I think I read Jane's just put it out that Russia was still denying RD-93s to Pakistan and it had made that clear to China. So I think we have conflicting reports here.
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The PAF Air Chief said that the JF-17's engine is not a problem - although some suspicion does lie on Russia's intention to sell engines, the PAF officially said that engines were not a problem.
 
MIGleader

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Indianfighter said:
The news about the sale of J-10s to Pakistan by China was expected, as the J-10 was demonstrated to general Musharraf, when he visited China last month.The Chinese do not usually demonstrate their weapons to visitng dignitories.

But the news about the sale of weapons by Russia to Pakistan is suspicious, if not impossible. Russia has clearly denied the sale of RD-93 engines to Pakistan since the beginning of 2006. So the sudden proposals of helicopter sales and other hardware does not seem possible.

The situation is analogous to military co-operation between India and China.
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I have said before that russia stands in a position to make a great deal of money(a single batch of 100 rd-93 costed 263 million)if Pakistan's fc-1's use the rd-93. As far as i know, the russians never lose out on a chance to make money, even if it involves decieving friends.
 
DPRKUnderground

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This thread has nothing to do with India so don't bring (or reply to others misconducts) the subject in here!
 
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NOTE:The thing I am about to tell you "should not be converted in to a ROUMER" ... i found out something interesting and decided to share. This is going in the official circle but it is not official.

The word is that Russia may allow Ukrain and China to sell Pakistan Su-30s.

Nothing more, nothing less....keep the above note in mind
 
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SABRE said:
NOTE:The thing I am about to tell you "should not be converted in to a ROUMER" ... i found out something interesting and decided to share. This is going in the official circle but it is not official.

The word is that Russia may allow Ukrain and China to sell Pakistan Su-30s.

Nothing more, nothing less....keep the above note in mind
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I have never heard of Ukrainian su-30s. I'm sure that if India was allowed to sell su-30k, China would be allowed to sell su-30mkk. But then again, why would PAF want to buy mkk?
 
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SABRE

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tphuang said:
I have never heard of Ukrainian su-30s. I'm sure that if India was allowed to sell su-30k, China would be allowed to sell su-30mkk. But then again, why would PAF want to buy mkk?
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China can sell MKK and Pakistan can later upgrade it with western avionics. If china sells Su-30 to Pakistan, India doesnt have much to scream abt. I think Ukrainians have 2nd hand Su-27, thats what they could sell to Pakistan but that seems unlikely. Why would PAF want Su-27?
 
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FreeAsia2000

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SABRE said:
NOTE:The thing I am about to tell you "should not be converted in to a ROUMER" ... i found out something interesting and decided to share. This is going in the official circle but it is not official.

The word is that Russia may allow Ukrain and China to sell Pakistan Su-30s.

Nothing more, nothing less....keep the above note in mind
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We'll see.

Personally I can't see pakistan wanting to buy russian planes because
of the cost both in training and because of the small numbers involved.

The su-30 IS an upgraded version of the su-27 who's main office was i believe based in ukraine
 
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