russia and india discuss the possipility of making 5th generation fighter together

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ArjunMk1 said:

PAK FA is until now is a secret programme . But its definite that India is with Russia in some new Stealth fighter project. And after Mig's stealth fighter lost competetion against Sukhoi, then PAK FA is the one left !!!



MCA is going to be enriched by PAK FA's tech !!!

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ah, the eternally optimistic Indians. Judging by the progresss of LCA, I'm guessing MCA might come out by the time F-22 retires.

The US expects the F-22 to serve in the Air Force for the next 40 years.

That's a long time for India to develop the MCA.

Let's be candid, India doesn't have the money for a $40 billion 5th generation fighter development program. India will focus on their Navy over the next 40 years and Navies don't come cheap. I'm not holding my breath for an MCA in 50 years.

If India is smart they'll accept the Russian offer, because their indigenous program has accomplished far too little and is falling behind.

With this offer, India may have a 5th gen fighter within 15 years. Without it, the'll have to divert much needed Naval funds to a questionable MCA program which won't be actualized for a few decades.

Fairthought said:

The US expects the F-22 to serve in the Air Force for the next 40 years.

That's a long time for India to develop the MCA.

Let's be candid, India doesn't have the money for a $40 billion 5th generation fighter development program. India will focus on their Navy over the next 40 years and Navies don't come cheap. I'm not holding my breath for an MCA in 50 years.

If India is smart they'll accept the Russian offer, because their indigenous program has accomplished far too little and is falling behind.

With this offer, India may have a 5th gen fighter within 15 years. Without it, the'll have to divert much needed Naval funds to a questionable MCA program which won't be actualized for a few decades.

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either way, you spend money. the russian obviously plan to do most of the developing and are just looking for a someone with a big pocket book.

And after Mig's stealth fighter lost competetion against Sukhoi, then PAK FA is the one left !!!

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You mean the I-2000?
Why did the MiG design fall out?

sounds like another LCA in the works

in 50 years, when the americans phase out the f-22, the first indian prototype will fail all indian airforce standards and fail to get a contract, and then they will say it's the best fighter in the world but needs 'slight modifications' like changing everything and redesigning the airframe

What would be the possibility of India procuring the JSF within the next 10 years? It could be a better replacement for its Mig-21, Mig 27, and Mirage fleets.

JSF in Indian colors.

Re: russia and india discuss the possipility of making 5th generation fighter togethe

MIGleader said:

nah, no actual aircraft deals have been signed yet. the russians have been trying to sell the pak-fa idea for a while, but no takers.

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india has not in agreed completely to dedicate itself in the PAK-FA on the whole. but it has agreed in parts of the program. Like
1. IRBIS radar a joint development between india and russia . ( speculated to be fitted with AESA ).
2. KH172 ultra long range missile. the next dev venture of brahmos corporation( which devloped Brahmos cruise missile ).
3. There are talks between india and russia for further upgrades on MKI from components created from PAK-FA project. Creating a possibility of a cooperation or investment in quite a few avionics equipments etc with india not commiting itself to PAK-Fa as a whole .
Furthermore i would any country would prefer to wait before the conceptual stage gets over. Once the airframe designs and specs of other components are available along with details of deadlines for each components. i dont see india / china or anyone commiting to the project on the whole .

Re: russia and india discuss the possipility of making 5th generation fighter togethe

俄将独立研制第五代作战飞机

俄罗斯航空新闻网2005年11月26日报道]　　俄罗斯副总理兼国防部长伊万诺夫表示，俄罗斯在研制第五代作战飞机时，暂时没有计划让其他国家参与这一过程。他表示："暂时将由我们独立进行这一工作，在自己内部进行"。现在正进行该飞机样式的确定工作，以及确定其主要参数。在还表示，在12月份印度总理访问莫斯科期间，双方将签署联合研制军用运输机的协议。针对外界传说印度将与俄罗斯共同研制第五代战机一事，伊万诺夫表示，在印度总理访问莫斯科期间，俄罗斯与印度将不会签署研制第五代战机协议，现在谈论这一协议还为时尚早。（刘锁 责编洪山）

It looks like the Russians want to develop the 5th generation aircraft all by themselves. All I can say is good luck! I honestly don't know where they suddenly got the money from.

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tphuang said:

俄将独立研制第五代作战飞机

俄罗斯航空新闻网2005年11月26日报道]　　俄罗斯副总理兼国防部长伊万诺夫表示，俄罗斯在研制第五代作战飞机时，暂时没有计划让其他国家参与这一过程。他表示："暂时将由我们独立进行这一工作，在自己内部进行"。现在正进行该飞机样式的确定工作，以及确定其主要参数。在还表示，在12月份印度总理访问莫斯科期间，双方将签署联合研制军用运输机的协议。针对外界传说印度将与俄罗斯共同研制第五代战机一事，伊万诺夫表示，在印度总理访问莫斯科期间，俄罗斯与印度将不会签署研制第五代战机协议，现在谈论这一协议还为时尚早。（刘锁 责编洪山）

It looks like the Russians want to develop the 5th generation aircraft all by themselves. All I can say is good luck! I honestly don't know where they suddenly got the money from.

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can u please decipher this text for me ??

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ajaybhutani said:

can u please decipher this text for me ??

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This is just like the other articles that stated on Indian president's trip to Moscow, no 5th generation cooperation deals will be signed. Russia is going alone for now. A deal for cooperation is far too early or something like that.