Renminbi (RMB)/Yuan Appreciation & Internationalization

luminary

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The Iraqi government will ban all cash withdrawals and transactions in the US dollar as of 1 January 2024, according to Mazen Ahmed, director-general of investment and remittances at the Iraqi Central Bank (CBI).

The CBI official says that people who deposit dollars into banks before the end of 2023 will still be able to withdraw these funds in dollars next year. However, dollars deposited in 2024 will only be available in local currency at the official rate of 1,320 dinars.

“You want to transfer? Transfer. You want a card in dollars? Here you go, you can use the card inside Iraq at the official rate, or if you want to withdraw cash, you can at the official rate in dinars … But don't talk to me about cash dollars anymore,” Ahmed told
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He also claimed the move is meant to “stamp out the illicit use" of about 50 percent of the $10 billion that Iraq imports in cash each year on semimonthly cargo flights from the New York Federal Reserve.

With more than $100 billion in reserves held by US banks, Baghdad heavily relies on the goodwill of US officials to ensure the economy doesn't collapse. Furthermore, since 2003, all Iraqi oil revenues have been paid into an account with the US Federal Reserve, allowing Washington to control the Iraqi economy and pressure its government.
Classic US move: steal gold from other nations, call it "safekeeping", invent reason to never give the gold back.
On 5 October, the
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(WSJ) reported that US officials last month refused to approve the transfer of an extra $1 billion in cash to Iraq from the country's oil sales proceeds.

“After the US denied Iraq’s initial appeal last month, the [CBI] last week submitted a formal request, which the [US] Treasury is still considering,” a senior Iraqi official told the WSJ.
The move reportedly angered Iraqi officials, who said they need access to their oil revenues to protect Iraq's cash reserves after recent restrictions from the White House “set off panic buying of greenbacks and hoarding of dollars by exchanges.”

US Treasury officials reportedly told CBI officials that “sending a large extra shipment is contrary to Washington’s goal of reducing Iraq’s use of US banknotes in favor of more easily traceable electronic transactions.”
With more than $100 billion in reserves held hostage by the US, Washington has significant leverage over the Iraqi economy and banking system.

In July, the US Treasury
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fourteen Iraqi private banks accusing them of facilitating US dollar transfers to Iran, a country whose economy Washington seeks to suffocate via sanctions.
Own goal:
As a result of this, nearly a third of Iraq’s 72 banks are now banned from facilitating dollar transactions.

In 2022, Iraq’s central bank enforced tight regulations under US pressure to ensure dollars do not reach Iran. Bank clients wishing to transfer dollar funds must apply through an online platform and provide detailed information on end recipients before a transfer is approved.
Iraqi MP and member of the Finance Committee in Iraq’s Council of Representatives, Hussein Mouanes, told
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in an exclusive interview in May: “Iraq has been and continues to be a slave to the US dollar … every country’s economic strength depends on the strength of its currency.”

“It is clear that Iraq is economically dominated by the US, and our government does not truly control or have access to its own money … We believe that it is crucial to move away from the hegemony of the dollar, especially as it has become a tool to impose sanctions on countries. It is time for Iraq to rely on its local currency,” he added.
 

KYli

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In the long run, I do believe Yuan would appreciate. China has a very low inflation rate compare with the West. Although, China's economy is under pressure now, the economy is growing stronger than most countries.

At the end of the day, the US or EU would lose their competitive against China as their currencies appreciate against China but at the same time have higher inflation than China. It is just fundamentally not possible for that to continue in the long run.
 

Arij Javaid

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In the long run, I do believe Yuan would appreciate. China has a very low inflation rate compare with the West. Although, China's economy is under pressure now, the economy is growing stronger than most countries.

At the end of the day, the US or EU would lose their competitive against China as their currencies appreciate against China but at the same time have higher inflation than China. It is just fundamentally not possible for that to continue in the long run.
Do you think de-dollarization will affect the value of the dollar?
 

HereToSeePics

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Will Chinese yuan appreciate to 5-6rmb to dollar in the future?

Countries should migrate away from comparing their currency to the USD if people are serious about dedollarizarion and instead benchmark their currency to their majors trading partners, a multi-currency index or even precious metals. By using USD as a base, it keeps reinforcing the emotional value of the dollar as the metric to look up to and achieve.
If you compare the RMB to other major currencies eur, jpy, aud, cad, rub, etc, its value is relatively stable or slowly increasing. The USD that’s the major outlier.
 

KYli

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Do you think de-dollarization will affect the value of the dollar?
As long as the US is still the sole superpower, Dollar would still command extraordinary influence on the world. Dedollarization has only become fashionable due to What the West has done to Russia through their monopoly of the world financial system.

US has been able to get away from its printing press and abuse of the dollar as the main reserve currency but the global south does feel the urgency to stop relying on dollar as we have witnessed how the Fed interest rate cycle has always put many developing countries on the brink such as Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, many African nations and even a few Latin American nations and Southeast Asian countries. However, these things take time.

Dollar would lose value but dollar as the reserve currency has only dropped less than 10% over the years as most central banks in the world still accumulate and store their foreign currency reserve in dollar. As long as many elites, wealthy and corrupted officials still view the US or the West as the safe haven for their ill gotten gains, I do think it would take a long time before dollar to truly devalue. To answer your question, I do think dedollarization would affect the value of the dollar but there are only a few alternatives to dollar and most of them have also have their own shortcomings such as Euro, Yen and even Yuan. None of them can dethrone dollar so dollar devaluation would only be slow and fluctuate.
 
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henrik

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most of the Yuan related deals does through with CIPS system..

SWIFT don't have access to CIPS system.

How do people fund their alipay and wechat pay accounts? By using CIPS or swift? Do people worldwide pay their visa card and master card bills by using swift?
 

PiSigma

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How do people fund their alipay and wechat pay accounts? By using CIPS or swift? Do people worldwide pay their visa card and master card bills by using swift?
Neither cips or swift is needed for Alipay or WeChat because 99.9% of it is in China using yuan. Cips and swift are for bank transfers and international money movements.

If you pay visa or MasterCard it doesn't get registered in swift unless u are using it overseas. Say if I buy something at home on my visa, when I pay it, it is 100% in CAD between my two accounts.
 
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