We had a similar incident in relation to women who had cancer of their reproductive systems. When the story broke decades after the period it occurred, a few people who had an illustrious career in the field of teaching and research in medicine, had their names tarnished forever. But how can one conduct these experiments without control groups?
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We had a similar incident in relation to women who had cancer of their reproductive systems. When the story broke decades after the period it occurred, a few people who had an illustrious career in the field of teaching and research in medicine, had their names tarnished forever. But how can one conduct these experiments without control groups?
vesicles
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Exactly... You will need controls to do a proper double-blind test... It is indeed a moral dilemma, a big one. We need to do these expts to learn how diseases work so that we can save lives, but how to protect those involved in the test??? Volunteering is the only option. Tell the volunteers that once the test begins, there is a possibility that they could be put into a placebo group. No one will know since these groups would be randomly chosen and neither the doctors nor patients would know which group it is.
Doing experiments using human subjects is always nerve-wrecking. Tons of paperwork to do and endless regulations to follow. That is why I try my best to stay away from clinical stuff.
Even doing experiments with animals is a huge hassle nowadays. Again, tons of paperwork to do and endless regulations to follow. But, I guess it is all to protect the animals. Before each lab establishes animal protocol, we all have to go through animal training. One of the lessons is to watch a video, which contains plenty footage of how lab animals used to be treated "back in the day". Man oh man! some of the footage is more horrifying than the most gruesome horror movies you can think of. The first time I watched the video back in grad school, I felt nauseated and didn't eat anything that day...
I did my first postdoc in a gastroenterology lab. So I had to get familiar with all the classic experiments in the field. Back in the 70's when people tried to study stomach barrier functions, they used dogs. In order to better control contents they added to the dog stomach, they would do a simply surgery to the dogs: opening up the belly and take out the stomach. Note, I am NOT talking about completely removing the stomach, but simply placing the stomach on the outside of the dogs' bodies. Then valves would then be added. Dogs were well alive and could eat and drink "normally" with their stomach hanging outside of their bodies. They would let the dogs acclimate for 3 days before doing experiments to measure stomach barrier function and ulcer formation, etc.
Wow, and I am gonna post a food drooler for you Texas boys that like Pinto Beans, I put my pinto beans in the crock pot last night about 10:30 pm, cooked them about 4 hours on high, got up and threw 4 strips of bacon in and some salt and garlic powder, turned them down to low, I got called in to sub in Jr. High Science-topic was weather and low pressure, and genetics in the eighth grade, my beans cooked all day, had a bowl before play practice at church, then came home and fixed my Tex/Mex refried beans,
sautéed onions and garlic, little cummen, chili pepper, and paprika, with two cups of pintos, stirred together and mashed the beans, served hot with sour cream, and grated cheddar and Monterey Jack, white tortilla chips to dip with, wifey loved it, she ate more than she wanted, she is too skinny though, so no harm no foul, but they were good and one of the twins loved it too. Wish you boys were here to share it with me!
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
I am guessing Blue is snow. And its turning white out there.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
We are at 2 F here right now, probably going to be -5 F before morning.The present temperature in Cedar Rapids is a balmy 11F(-12C)..
Dang,... it's so cold outside I just saw a deer fart a snowflake!
Here, it is so cold, that when any animal or human farts outdoors, you cannot even hear or smell it until it thaws out! LOL!