Raid on PAP station by extremists in Xinjiang

mobydog

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Free speech zone??? Not saying it does not exist but I've never heard of that, I've lived in the US my whole life.

In the US you can protest where ever you want as long as you don't, trespass, disrupt business or any sort of proccedings.
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The one in San francisco is Anti-china in nature.. allowable.


The West? I assume you are including the US. In case you did not know all police in the US whether local, state or Federal are armed.

As far as the attack is concerned it appears to me the the attackers knew when to attack to get the greatest damage to the unsuspecting police. The PAP was unfortunatley caught completly by surprise. I'm sure the PAP will take measures to beef up their own security.
I read somewhere that they were in running kits, when they were run over.

BTW, how were the two arrested ? Obviously, by the surviving cops, when they continued with knive attack. In Normal circumstances, if the cops were armed - firearms would be used. Most likely not all died from just the truck attack.
 

bd popeye

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The one in San francisco is Anti-china in nature.. allowable.

mobydog you can believe what ever you wish. The consitution of the US guarnetees freedom of assembly. I lived in Califirnia for 26 years and I know that all you need to do in cCalifirnia to protest is.

don't, trespass, disrupt business or any sort of proccedings.

You would only need a permit if the gathering exceeded a certain amount of people. Other states ,I'm sure , have similar laws.
 

yehe

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Freedom is what I have always admired in US, however, sometimes I think it's too much freedom for thier own good, free to spread alot of BS tbh.

Right of assembly, this is intepreted differently in different countries, some country doesn't allow NAZI demonstration in europe, anyone that do a Seig Heil, is arrested(as they should imo) for ex. and some still outlaw communist, at least all demonstrations needs permit from police and a predetermined location.
 

AssassinsMace

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Many aspects of free speech have never truly been tested in the US. One example is to look at the recent Tibet protests. This is the first time many Chinese have been outspoken when normally they stay silent. Something that was also unsual to see for the the anti-China side as well. And look what happened. Anyone who didn't follow the anti-China line was accused of being paid by or a spy for the Beijing government. This was even charged by liberal newspapers in San Francisco. Many in the US don't know what rights truly means. On the anti-China side, they think freedom is only about changing your mind to their way of thinking. If you don't, then they have the right intimidate you with veiled direct or indirect threats, i.e. threaten to take away your citizenship. Since I know my rights, I'll respond, "Do it, you (add insulting curse word here)! I dare you!" They shut up or go to another tactic. Why? I know they can't do anything, because it goes against human rights. When put to the test, many won't tolerate rights for others when it goes against what they want. This situation is minor. Can you imagine when something more serious puts them to the test? Many immigrants and weak minded Asian-Americans too don't know what rights are or means and literally think any scumbag in America can take away their residency or citizenship so they shut up. The irony of some that hide behind freedom use the tactics of intimidation to silence the opposition.

Anyone can believe in their own freedom. Hitler believed in his own freedom. And I'm sure he believed in the freedom of those that followed him too. Does that make him a champion for freedom? In my experience, when push comes to shove, the people who hide behind freedom and rights are the first ones to want to take them away fom you.
 
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SampanViking

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Well there have now been three attacks in Xinjiang in the last ten days that have left a total of 30 dead.

I am curious to learn if the PLA is moving any heavy units towards any part of its Western border.
 

yehe

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These areobviously attacks that have been planned for a long tie, aimed to hit during Olympic, wouldn't be suprised if all the attention and critics the western media hade over china during the Tourch Rely gave the terrorist some Ides of how to get attention fr themself with thier attacks.
 

PrOeLiTeZ

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lol with the current tibetian protest happening out of china....the western media keeps saying peaceful protest??? yet their violent in attacking chinese embassy and police...why does the western media lie so much??? and also they keep mentioning the tight security in china and how many army soldiers are surrounding the stadiums, of course us sinodefence people know that they are chinese police and are not related to the chinese army.
 

yehe

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Well, Free Media doen't mean Objective Media, that's something that seems to be very confusing in west, number of free media in west are alot and "free", yes, but what counts are only those few large mainstream media hubs, basicly all media in the west uses those couple hubs to get news or insperations, to set the politically correctness standard, while all journalist have thier own perspective of viewing thing, thier grew up and cultural/religious backgronds, political/geopolitical agenda etc., and those reflect in the way they write thier news and produce thier shows, I am sure many journalist are trying to be objective, but preformed opinion are something that few can escape from. For ex. sometimes by predominately ONLY reporting a good or bad side of the subject, it means bias, howsever objectively the report it self might be.

This combined with the very suprising, sometime even blindly trust general publics in the west have for thier Free media, it creates a effect in western nations I call unknowingly brainwash/censorship.
 

spc_ace

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Bush said that there is nothing for China to be afraid in freeing up religion. I hope that Bush is honest in what he is saying and free up religion in US by not harassing Islam believers and 24 wire-tapping the Mosque activities.
 
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