Quality of Education in China? Overnationalism?
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I really don't have a problem with this at all. For you it was all good when the westerner was doing this to Chinese people in the 19th and 20th century, but don't like it when Chinese do this to others.
airsuperiority
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Double-standards and acceptance of racism: that's what you have just told us about yourself. That's also what blind pro-china supporters like you do: deliberately ignore all the mistakes people in China makes AND then accusing others of double standards when ur the one right now displaying the hypocrisy ur accusing others of. It should be me saying to you, wow when others do it, it's bad, but you find it ok some racists in china do sth like this?? Of course it includes making false assumptions of other people's beliefs when they didn't even think that way. Seriously is that ur inferiority complex? That china must always be the victim? My gosh get it out of your brain. And when did I even ever stated I "agree" western racism is correct? In fact that's something I fought against all my life. Racism is wrong whichever way, whoever does it. As china rises to become one of the top international players, its important china ensures its people are not racist and ultra-nationalism. It's amazing people like you justify actions on Chinese part. People out there are accusing Chinese of overzealous from nationalism, and then kinds like you and the sign owner are out to prove they are right. If you're a Chinese, you seriously make us all look bad. And this is also why while I'm not on the anti-Chinese camp I also won't associate myself as pro- china. I support Chinese in a rational critical way, and be the first to whistleblow our own people so we can improve, but racists like you belittle our efforts and gives a stinking name for badgers to associate chinese and pro-Chinese by: ignorant, racist, biased
Please don't tell people u're whatever ethnicity u're from. You embarrass the rest of your kind. If ur a Chinese, you are exactly the types of people I'm denouncing. Double-standard, racist, biased.. It's absolutely horrendous for what you've said. Actually you embarrass our forum. This is totally one of the very few times I see someone so publicly support racism, and it's something I'm sure not in spirit of our forum
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So you expect us just take it and don't do anything and wait for the good ole western media to take our side? Yeah, good luck with that. What J-XX is saying is to fire with fire back, nothing else. You on the other hand are way too sensible at what the so call world (Western view basically) think and see about China and Chinese without ever touching a history book. If you want to fight racism than start with the bias media who keeps on pursuing to enforce China into their way of thinking and values, "culture and history be damn, modernity is the new liberty et all". Yeah that Francis Fukuyama "End of History" sure do works wonders. I'm sorry that just doesn't jive with me, if someone call me a racist name, I'll simply do the same back at them (regardless of what their background is). Believe me I got a list for every major race and ethnicity in this world in case I ran into a trouble maker of any kind (even Chinese one as well).
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airsuperiority
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Right. "Fire with fire back". I only remember "An eye for an eye makes the world blind." It's pretty sad that even you think that he's right, and using racism is justified at all.
"touching a history book"..hmm making assumptions about me. Just so you know, you're making all assumptions about pretty much who I am, which in the end is just you arguing against your own fabrications and fantasies.
And it's even more laughable you consider racism "Western view."
Is that your attitude in life? Start "first" by attacking others instead of self-reflecting? What kind of credit do you have to claim others are biased if you yourself are living up to the labels they are condemning you for? You are totally living up to the stuff you're trying to condemn me for. I don't even care if you label me "West", because whatever fantasies floating in your mind is sufficient to tell me you're not worth contesting for.
I'm sick of hearing these stupid pathetic excuses and catch phrases by people like you who in fact just display your own inferiority complex rather than what's actually true. Stop living in a delusional world where China is a victim and everyone's out to rape China. China is strong, our culture's been here for more than 5000 years, gotten through numerous more severe times, and we're still standing vibrant. Not one bias media, the constraints of US, the West, would destroy China, but the screwed up thoughts by people from within China who lives on a pathetic inferiority complex and PTSD-victim syndrome and believes the world is out to destroy China, would ultimately lead to the nation's demise. Active denials(you, JXX), racists(store owner, people who spew hate), thugs(people who smashes up Japanese products), warmongers, all attempt to justify all the negative actions and reinforce one another by living through your group-therapy of comforting one another's wrongful actions, saying your hateful actions are all legit in the name of "patriotism." Totally irrational. And of course even the moderates who attempt to criticize the phenomenon would be lynched, labeled, attacked, like what you both are doing right now, and attempt to make excuses to comfort yourself and your guilt by saying the critics are "Westernized" once again.
Can someone remind me why I'm talking to an active racist again? Now it's not a surprise why you both reinforce each other's actions. You're just as much of a believer of racism, and it's scary you're even "proud" enough to talk about acting like that.
airsuperiority
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I find it absolutely sad that how some forum members here would attempt to blindly defend China at all costs without even using one bit sense of rational thought and proper moral judgement. While it's true we cannot always agree on political issues, I'd thought that certain moral duties have no need to be contested for. Actions that are racist, radical, extreme, should never be defended, as it will only encourage these ideals to foster to become even more pronounced. Today the reason may be patriotism, but tomorrow it can even be said as "cultural". Today it's only racial name-calling, but tomorrow it can be hate crimes.
I know recently I've displayed a much different attitude towards China than in the past, but that's because I'm a moderate and a critic who uses rational reasoning, not blind support to China. If we equate patriotism to self-esteem, like moderate stress, patriotism can get things done. However also like self-esteem, if it goes beyond rational reasoning, or it becomes too high and no self-reflection, then it becomes arrogance.
We all knew the history of China especially the things it had went through the past 100 hundred years. No matter how traumatic the past is, it's the present now and it's important to move forward. Calling all criticism as "Western imposing values" are merely excuses for a bad phenomenon to occur and it is as bad as saying "they are jealous of us", "they are out to get us", as self-delusional and self-comforting measures to not accept criticism.
I know recently I've displayed a much different attitude towards China than in the past, but that's because I'm a moderate and a critic who uses rational reasoning, not blind support to China. If we equate patriotism to self-esteem, like moderate stress, patriotism can get things done. However also like self-esteem, if it goes beyond rational reasoning, or it becomes too high and no self-reflection, then it becomes arrogance.
We all knew the history of China especially the things it had went through the past 100 hundred years. No matter how traumatic the past is, it's the present now and it's important to move forward. Calling all criticism as "Western imposing values" are merely excuses for a bad phenomenon to occur and it is as bad as saying "they are jealous of us", "they are out to get us", as self-delusional and self-comforting measures to not accept criticism.
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Such as yourself who would blindly attack China and anyone supporting it at all cost without even thinking it through from their perspective point of view. Get over yourself already, there is not one single set of morality where man kind must follow or else be doomed. We're talking about and comparing Chinese education to others, NOT a genocidal lecture camp.
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Best defense is a good offense
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That's your fault for purveying that attitude and it's my right to assume that.
What are you deaf and blind? IF you don't think Western media plays an important role as to portraying Asians and Chinese in a certain unflattering negative ways, than you must be smoking some really good hash. You don't expect the community to react at all?
"Don't worry folks it's just a movie, it's just an opinion...move along, all is well!"
Stop making excuses for the racial idiots who started it all in the first place. I'm only suggesting defending your dignity by hitting back. If you got a problem with self defense than crawl back into your safety hole.
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