Well he pressed the button and the next second put it on a 90 day timer, but from an american perspective let's just brush that under the carpet Huawei losing all its international business and partners is much better click bait!
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Well he pressed the button and the next second put it on a 90 day timer, but from an american perspective let's just brush that under the carpet Huawei losing all its international business and partners is much better click bait!
solarz
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Some articles for those forumites that can read Chinese:
The first article talks about how Panasonic has not stopped supplying Huawei despite Western media reports.
The second article is about ordinary Huawei employees and their families showing their determination.
Highly recommended!
The first article talks about how Panasonic has not stopped supplying Huawei despite Western media reports.
The second article is about ordinary Huawei employees and their families showing their determination.
Highly recommended!
Just like Google Play Store or Apple store, Aptoide is a web based business registered in EU, it does not have physical presence in US, but there may be some American's using the service. That is the kind of business it may have in US.
ARM is totally different thing because part of its design are done by its American design centre (materialistic), and it sells (again materialistic) licenses to Apple and Qualcomm.
What Trump can do it to block anyone within US to access Aptoide store if Trump think Aptoide "broke" any US law, but I can't see how could US materialistically force Aptoide to comply. Of course if Trump is to kidnap Aptoide's CEO when he/she travels through Canada, that would be another matter, there is no limit when all rules are scrapped. Remember the Alstom scandal?
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Replacing that "ARM" with ARM "international" would be accurate.
ARM mini China (JV: 51%/49%) has the right to anything in the future that ARM "International" (ARM parent) developed outside of US. ARM mini China is cut off from the portion that ARM American design centres would make from now on.
ARM "international" is only obliged to not to sell the made-in-US, the rest of the their work is under UK law.
One thing worth to remember is that, from now on there may be two branches of ARM CPU (with or without US work). That work will result in ARM being different in design. So we must be clear of what ARM we are talking about.
Also, we should not see the Chinese version being a fork or not ARM proper, it is still ARM because it is still part of ARM (UK)'s product lines.
Also, we should not see the Chinese version being a fork or not ARM proper, it is still ARM because it is still part of ARM (UK)'s product lines.
superdog
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May not matter that much in a year or two as Huawei has been developing its own ip cores. Currently they buy A76/A55 (CPU) and mali (GPU) designs from ARM, but once their own designs matured they'll only need a license to the ARMv8 instruction set, which they've already acquired a permanent one.
Hendrik_2000
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Good op/ed from GT
is no longer fighting a with China, but is waging a full-scale war of conquering China without firing a shot. China is fighting for the country's economic sovereignty, as well as its scientific and technological sovereignty:
is no longer fighting a with China, but is waging a full-scale war of conquering China without firing a shot. China is fighting for the country's economic sovereignty, as well as its scientific and technological sovereignty:
Equation
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Yeah I've saw it last night, that episode is hilarious.
In that scenario it may not matter to Huawei. But the JV is still significant to all other Chinese phone vendors.
It has become increasingly clear that Trump and his administration are having some serious miscalculations. Let me explain.
Today news broke that Trump said openly that he is willing to include Huawei in a potential trade deal with China, despite claiming that Huawei is somehow "dangerous" both in a civilian and military sense. There are also reports that somehow China is waiting this administration out so that they can have a friendlier government to deal with.
These reports to me suggest that Trump et al still want a deal, a "winning" deal of course. They might have expected that once they pushed the nuclear button of blacklisting Huawei, the Chinese side would immediately have to surrender and beg for a deal. But it did not happen. So the US first gave a 90 day delay, which Huawei founder said is not necessary, and then Trump came out to say Huawei can be included in a deal. It's almost as if the US is saying "why didn't you come forward to beg for a deal so that I can claim victory? If you come I can pardon you."
But none of these happened. Not only that the Chinese side did not seem to back down. There is also no mentioning of "waiting Trump out" in China.
The Chinese government now believe that this is not just about trade or any potential trade deal, maybe that's what Trump wants so that his can get re-elected, but there are people in his administration that want to take advantage of this opportunity to basically kill off Chinese tech industry.
The mentality is different for the Chinese now. At the start of the trade war, the Chinese were being too naive to think that some purchases would satiate Trump and they soon discovered this is a wrongly held belief. Now that it seems the Chinese side is embracing for a full fallout but it's Trump side that's being a little naive about this.
Today news broke that Trump said openly that he is willing to include Huawei in a potential trade deal with China, despite claiming that Huawei is somehow "dangerous" both in a civilian and military sense. There are also reports that somehow China is waiting this administration out so that they can have a friendlier government to deal with.
These reports to me suggest that Trump et al still want a deal, a "winning" deal of course. They might have expected that once they pushed the nuclear button of blacklisting Huawei, the Chinese side would immediately have to surrender and beg for a deal. But it did not happen. So the US first gave a 90 day delay, which Huawei founder said is not necessary, and then Trump came out to say Huawei can be included in a deal. It's almost as if the US is saying "why didn't you come forward to beg for a deal so that I can claim victory? If you come I can pardon you."
But none of these happened. Not only that the Chinese side did not seem to back down. There is also no mentioning of "waiting Trump out" in China.
The Chinese government now believe that this is not just about trade or any potential trade deal, maybe that's what Trump wants so that his can get re-elected, but there are people in his administration that want to take advantage of this opportunity to basically kill off Chinese tech industry.
The mentality is different for the Chinese now. At the start of the trade war, the Chinese were being too naive to think that some purchases would satiate Trump and they soon discovered this is a wrongly held belief. Now that it seems the Chinese side is embracing for a full fallout but it's Trump side that's being a little naive about this.
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