asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
dont think these sea monsters really benefited PLAN that much?
PLAN Zubr Large Air Cushion Landing Craft
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It can almost carry a battalion of troops (500) according to wiki and are quite cheap to produce. 20 of these can deliver 5000 troops, 15 MBTs and 50 APCs in a single trip of ~3 hours between the mainland and Taiwan and turn back on one fuel load.
In not so ideal situations they can go to Taiwan and back in 7 hours including 1 hour for unloading. Theoretically they can make 2 trips in less than 24 hours including reloading and refueling.
That's 20k troops, 60 MBTs and 200 APCs with 20 LCAC in less than 24 hours. 20 pieces will cost $1,5~2 Billion to produce.
The rest of the troops and equipment can then be shuttled in by LPD's, LHD's and whatever civillian vessel floats and can make the trip across the strait safely.
I'm sure the LPD's and LHD's will put the first troops on the island, closely followed by the Zubr's as soon as a beachhead is established.
yes i think the tactical value in these vessels is that as soon as the beachhead is established, they can immediately reinforce it with hundreds of troops.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
it defiantly cant carry all that at once I have no idea from where you are puling these numbers Zubr itself weight less than 400 tons
500 troops is not a capacity that can be carried for 3 hours and defiantly that is a number of people not troops to demonstrate the capacity hold not a battle formation
troops carry equipment and alot of gear the max. number is more likely less than half that
and I can never see PLAN building 20 of these the cost to maintain them is too high and would not justify the procurement
Super rapid delivery of armored platoon or mechanized company(or equivalents).
Maybe to Taiwan (heavy reinforcement shuttle), maybe to any SCS/1st chain locations hosting US missile marines. Like, for example(!), much of Philippines.
Maybe actually reinforcements to SCS islands themselves, especially if they're to be crated.
Provided enemy reconnaissance is taken into account, it can bring a lot of stuff faster than many response measures can react. The operation often can be quite short(speed), simplifying defense planning.
In many cases it can literally be just a flanker CAP.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
no take Taiwan out of there unless i see a source that shows China is building Zubr on mass like 20 units
even then you cannot fully load a Zubr with 500 marines on a 7 hour journey, real life doesnt work like this
its like saying C17 carrying 640 Afghans can carry 640 fully loaded paratroopers and all their equipment
in actually fact they mange only 102 fully loaded troops
Zubr ok for other smaller islands rapid reaction force in limited number
A brief introduction to the development process of the 728 landing ship.
There is nothing worth mentioning, but the author has made an interesting point: it is not yet clear whether the engine used is self-developed or a generic version. Due to the fact that the original engine is a derivative of the NK-12MV used by TU-95MS, this means that this engine has other potential applications.
But will this really become the engine of the new strategic bomber?
There is nothing worth mentioning, but the author has made an interesting point: it is not yet clear whether the engine used is self-developed or a generic version. Due to the fact that the original engine is a derivative of the NK-12MV used by TU-95MS, this means that this engine has other potential applications.
But will this really become the engine of the new strategic bomber?
What I found interesting was the acknowledgment that it took longer than expected ("bottlenecks") in reproducing/developing an indigenous engine (not sure there), which was a reason for the delay in producing the new Zubrs. And, that he made note of the replacement of the Navy Ensign on the propeller shroud (on the preceding Zubrs) with the National Flag on the new ones.
Is there a verified count of currently in service Zubrs/Type 728?
UGT-6000 has no relation to NK-12MV. Derivative of NK-12 was used on the older version of 1232 landing ship Dzheyran which was built in the 70s.
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