PLAN Type 051B/C Class Destroyers

ChongqingHotPot92

ChongqingHotPot92

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
What if China's indigenous radar sets and UVLS for the 052C and 052D weren't ready in time, and China needs a 055 badly?

Here's how the hypothetical "181 destroyer", based on the extension and upgrade of the 051C, would've looked like had it been commissioned into the PLAN. All the following pictures are CG-illustreated by @大包CG on Weibo.
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When put side-by-side with the real 055:
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Truth-to-be-told, the hypothetical "181 destroyer", fabricated by a Chinese netizen in the 2000s and "popularized" among Chinese military fan circles, encapsuled the hopes and wishes by the Chinese military community that China, sometime in the future, can have her own powerful 10000-ton surface warships just like the Americans.

But now, we have successfully achieved that goal with the 055-class, and the 055s of today are capable of offering way greater effective firepower than what the hypothetical "181 destroyer" could ever dream of.

We have marched this far. Thank you to all the unsung Chinese designers, engineers and workers who made this goal a reality!
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Doesn't look like a poor design. However, since the whole point of 051B/C was to prove whether old steam turbines could mate with modern warships, I wonder if steam turbines alone without electric motors would be enough to power the AESA phased array radars like the 346 series, whilst still allowing the ship to maintain a speed of 30 knots.
 
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drowingfish

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Registered Member
ACuriousPLAFan said:
What if China's indigenous radar sets and UVLS for the 052C and 052D weren't ready in time, and China needs a 055 badly?

Here's how the hypothetical "181 destroyer", based on the extension and upgrade of the 051C, would've looked like had it been commissioned into the PLAN. All the following pictures are CG-illustreated by @大包CG on Weibo.
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When put side-by-side with the real 055:
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Truth-to-be-told, the hypothetical "181 destroyer", fabricated by a Chinese netizen in the 2000s and "popularized" among Chinese military fan circles, encapsuled the hopes and wishes by the Chinese military community that China, sometime in the future, can have her own powerful 10000-ton surface warships just like the Americans.

But now, we have successfully achieved that goal with the 055-class, and the 055s of today are capable of offering way greater effective firepower than what the hypothetical "181 destroyer" could ever dream of.

We have marched this far. Thank you to all the unsung Chinese designers, engineers and workers who made this goal a reality!
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lmao so the chinese fanboys' wet dream in the early 2000s doesnt even match up to the realities of today, that is quite impressive actually
 
by78

by78

General
DDG 167 Shenzhen close-up.

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antiterror13

Brigadier
drowingfish said:
if those are Yj-12 then it is still very potent firepower. anyone has an estimate of how this ship ranks compared to vessels of other navies?
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I believe those are 12x YJ-12, very potent firepower indeed plus 32x VLS HQ-16 and 2x 1130 CIWS . I don't see any warship in Asia (apart from Japan and SK and probably India) has more firepower than this DDG167
 
lcloo

lcloo

Captain
alejandrogrossi said:
Hi to all
Lookinthe the 2 photo
I have one question about the hangar capacity of the Type 051B?
Only helo mediun type (Z-9) or coud be possible the Z-20F?
Thanks to all
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PLANS Shenzhen's helicopter hangar can accomodate Ka-28 with 5.5M height which is more than the height of Z20, but the folded length of Z20J/F is too long. The original hangar was designed to accommodate Z9 and Ka-28 which are short in length.

I doubt they did a very extensive work to extend the length of the hangar during MLU, because that is not cost effective for a lone ship in its class. Length of the landing deck may also be too risky for 20M long Z20 to land.
 
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alejandrogrossi

Just Hatched
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lcloo said:
PLANS Shenzhen's helicopter hangar can accomodate Ka-28 with 5.5M height which is more than the height of Z20, but the folded length of Z20J/F is too long. The original hangar was designed to accommodate Z9 and Ka-28 which are short in length.

I doubt they did a very extensive work to extend the length of the hangar during MLU, because that is not cost effective for a lone ship in its class. Length of the landing deck may also be too risky for 20M long Z20 to land.
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Thanks Icloo
 
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