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Hendrik_2000
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Chinese is a great farmer they will find a way to grow crop even in the most in hospitable place I have been waiting for this news a long time Finally they manage to grow vegetable in the sand with the help of Jiaotong university by mixing sand with water retaining paste. This will open the opportunity to start pig and chicken, lamb animal farming. Hey maybe even rice farming?
They also have green house technology to grow vegetable year around
With the find of sweet water source under the sea this experiment will make the island more sustainable,more self sufficient and less prone to blockade. And probably in future support civilian population to legitimate China's hold on SCS
Harvesting vegetables with 'sand-to-earth' tech on S. China Sea island beach
By Shan Jie Source:Globaltimes.cn Published: 2020/5/19 23:54:20
Photo: Chongqing Jiaotong University
Chinese navy garrisoned on an island in the Xisha Islands of the South China Sea recently harvested 750 kilogram of vegetables on sandy beaches for the first time, using technology which experts said could support communities on islands.
Seven kinds of vegetables, including Pakchoi cabbage, lettuce and baby Chinese cabbage, were harvested on a "sand to earth" experimental field on Yongxing Island in Sansha city, South China's Hainan Province, on May 12, according to a report from the Chinese navy on Tuesday.
"The technology will be promoted on a large scale, which could solve the problem of military forces and civilians on islands lacking enough green vegetables," a navy officer said, according to the report.
The navy's garrisoned force in Xisha worked with the "sand to earth" research team from the Chongqing Jiaotong University in Southwest China for four months to achieve the "miracle."
According to the navy's report, naval officers and scientists mixed a botanical fiber adhesive powder material into the sand. After watering, the sand became soil. Seeds planted in a 0.5-mu field on April 4 grew into more than 750 kilograms of harvests after one month, which means vegetables could be harvested five or six times a year.
The team from Chongqing Jiaotong University had changed 4,000 mu of desert into farming land in North China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region in 2017.
The breakthrough also counters international theories, including those in a 2016 arbitration, that islands in the South China Sea could not support communities of their own, Chen Xiangmiao, an assistant research fellow at the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, told the Global Times on Tuesday.
"Now China's capability of being able to support civilians on these islands would allow more people to live on the islands," Chen noted.
The high temperatures, high humidity and high salt content had made farming extremely difficult on the South China Sea islands, Chen said.
"Being able to grow vegetables makes it possible to take the next step, such as raising pigs or chickens. An ecological cycle would make the islands more suitable for humans to live there for a longer time," Chen said. "In the future, each island could form a small independent community."
Since the 1970s, forces stationed in the islands have relied on green-leaf vegetables to be shipped to them. But sometimes boats could not reach the islands due to bad weather, and officers could only eat seaweed, pumpkins or beancurd sticks, causing nutritional issues, according to the navy report.
Navy officers tried bringing soil from the mainland, but they could only grow a small amount of vegetables. In 2007, the built a vegetable demonstrative base on Yongxing island. Vegetable greenhouses were also built on some islands.
Sansha city was founded in 2012. With more and more navy officers and civilians moving onto the islands, the need for green-leaf vegetables has been increasing.
This is the technology from Jiaotong university that make it possible
They also have green house technology to grow vegetable year around
With the find of sweet water source under the sea this experiment will make the island more sustainable,more self sufficient and less prone to blockade. And probably in future support civilian population to legitimate China's hold on SCS
Harvesting vegetables with 'sand-to-earth' tech on S. China Sea island beach
By Shan Jie Source:Globaltimes.cn Published: 2020/5/19 23:54:20
Photo: Chongqing Jiaotong University
Chinese navy garrisoned on an island in the Xisha Islands of the South China Sea recently harvested 750 kilogram of vegetables on sandy beaches for the first time, using technology which experts said could support communities on islands.
Seven kinds of vegetables, including Pakchoi cabbage, lettuce and baby Chinese cabbage, were harvested on a "sand to earth" experimental field on Yongxing Island in Sansha city, South China's Hainan Province, on May 12, according to a report from the Chinese navy on Tuesday.
"The technology will be promoted on a large scale, which could solve the problem of military forces and civilians on islands lacking enough green vegetables," a navy officer said, according to the report.
The navy's garrisoned force in Xisha worked with the "sand to earth" research team from the Chongqing Jiaotong University in Southwest China for four months to achieve the "miracle."
According to the navy's report, naval officers and scientists mixed a botanical fiber adhesive powder material into the sand. After watering, the sand became soil. Seeds planted in a 0.5-mu field on April 4 grew into more than 750 kilograms of harvests after one month, which means vegetables could be harvested five or six times a year.
The team from Chongqing Jiaotong University had changed 4,000 mu of desert into farming land in North China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region in 2017.
The breakthrough also counters international theories, including those in a 2016 arbitration, that islands in the South China Sea could not support communities of their own, Chen Xiangmiao, an assistant research fellow at the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, told the Global Times on Tuesday.
"Now China's capability of being able to support civilians on these islands would allow more people to live on the islands," Chen noted.
The high temperatures, high humidity and high salt content had made farming extremely difficult on the South China Sea islands, Chen said.
"Being able to grow vegetables makes it possible to take the next step, such as raising pigs or chickens. An ecological cycle would make the islands more suitable for humans to live there for a longer time," Chen said. "In the future, each island could form a small independent community."
Since the 1970s, forces stationed in the islands have relied on green-leaf vegetables to be shipped to them. But sometimes boats could not reach the islands due to bad weather, and officers could only eat seaweed, pumpkins or beancurd sticks, causing nutritional issues, according to the navy report.
Navy officers tried bringing soil from the mainland, but they could only grow a small amount of vegetables. In 2007, the built a vegetable demonstrative base on Yongxing island. Vegetable greenhouses were also built on some islands.
Sansha city was founded in 2012. With more and more navy officers and civilians moving onto the islands, the need for green-leaf vegetables has been increasing.
This is the technology from Jiaotong university that make it possible
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Chinese is a great farmer they will find a way to grow crop even in the most in hospitable place I have been waiting for this news a long time Finally they manage to grow vegetable in the sand with the help of Jiaotong university by mixing sand with water retaining paste. This will open the opportunity to start pig and chicken, lamb animal farming. Hey maybe even rice farming?
They also have green house technology to grow vegetable year around
With the find of sweet water source under the sea this experiment will make the island more sustainable,more self sufficient and less prone to blockade. And probably in future support civilian population to legitimate China's hold on SCS
Harvesting vegetables with 'sand-to-earth' tech on S. China Sea island beach
By Shan Jie Source:Globaltimes.cn Published: 2020/5/19 23:54:20
Photo: Chongqing Jiaotong University
Chinese navy garrisoned on an island in the Xisha Islands of the South China Sea recently harvested 750 kilogram of vegetables on sandy beaches for the first time, using technology which experts said could support communities on islands.
Seven kinds of vegetables, including Pakchoi cabbage, lettuce and baby Chinese cabbage, were harvested on a "sand to earth" experimental field on Yongxing Island in Sansha city, South China's Hainan Province, on May 12, according to a report from the Chinese navy on Tuesday.
"The technology will be promoted on a large scale, which could solve the problem of military forces and civilians on islands lacking enough green vegetables," a navy officer said, according to the report.
The navy's garrisoned force in Xisha worked with the "sand to earth" research team from the Chongqing Jiaotong University in Southwest China for four months to achieve the "miracle."
According to the navy's report, naval officers and scientists mixed a botanical fiber adhesive powder material into the sand. After watering, the sand became soil. Seeds planted in a 0.5-mu field on April 4 grew into more than 750 kilograms of harvests after one month, which means vegetables could be harvested five or six times a year.
The team from Chongqing Jiaotong University had changed 4,000 mu of desert into farming land in North China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region in 2017.
The breakthrough also counters international theories, including those in a 2016 arbitration, that islands in the South China Sea could not support communities of their own, Chen Xiangmiao, an assistant research fellow at the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, told the Global Times on Tuesday.
"Now China's capability of being able to support civilians on these islands would allow more people to live on the islands," Chen noted.
The high temperatures, high humidity and high salt content had made farming extremely difficult on the South China Sea islands, Chen said.
"Being able to grow vegetables makes it possible to take the next step, such as raising pigs or chickens. An ecological cycle would make the islands more suitable for humans to live there for a longer time," Chen said. "In the future, each island could form a small independent community."
Since the 1970s, forces stationed in the islands have relied on green-leaf vegetables to be shipped to them. But sometimes boats could not reach the islands due to bad weather, and officers could only eat seaweed, pumpkins or beancurd sticks, causing nutritional issues, according to the navy report.
Navy officers tried bringing soil from the mainland, but they could only grow a small amount of vegetables. In 2007, the built a vegetable demonstrative base on Yongxing island. Vegetable greenhouses were also built on some islands.
Sansha city was founded in 2012. With more and more navy officers and civilians moving onto the islands, the need for green-leaf vegetables has been increasing.
This is the technology from Jiaotong university that make it possible
PLA need to expand the size of those islands into real military fortresses.
Imagine if the entire Fiery Cross reef is build, that will be a island, no longer a reef.
Its size will be roughly that of 30-40% of Guam.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
The news is picked up by the western MSM. It is already a full fledged Military base with harbor, airport, sensor, self defense missile, fuel dump, ammo dump, repair and maintenance hangar, hospital, On Yongxing they even have water treatment plant, power plant, Movie, telecommunication, Library, school. And civilian population too
It is strategically important to grow your own food to support that many people. They built greenhouses but not enough. Also it will legitimate China's hold on those islet and claim of economic zone.
Yes I agree they need to enlarge those islet and built at least fisherman/sea militia dormitory, cold storage, repair facility for civilian ship. Land for vegetable, rice farming and fruit tree orchard, food processing facility.
This islet is not the same as WWII era Japanese island outpost. It is much more sophisticated and more defensible
Here the infrastructure China built in YOngxing islet
South China Sea hammer blow: China secures huge victory as scientists achieve shock goal
CHINA has secured a huge victory in the South China Sea after scientists successfully grew crops - a symbolic milestone in the battle for control of the region.
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PUBLISHED: 14:17, Thu, May 21, 2020 | UPDATED: 14:19, Thu, May 21, 2020
The Chinese Navy has managed to harvest 1.5 tonnes of vegetables on its largest military base in the Paracel Islands - a disputed archipelago in the South China Sea. The Chinese military, along with a research team from Chongqing Jiaotong University, started the project on a beach in the remote Woody Island - the largest of the Paracel Islands.
The team successfully completed a sand-to-soil cultivation in order to create a fertile environment for vegetation.
Although the South China Sea is rich with underwater reefs, creating an ecosystem on land has proven extremely difficult due to the lack of nutrient soil and fresh water.
The ground-breaking project has now put steps in place for human life to be sustained and for China to increase its presence in the dispute region.
South China Sea: Scientists have successfully grown crops on Woody Island (Image: GETTY)
Chen Xiangmiao, an assistant research fellow at the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, told the Global Times: “Now China's capability of being able to support civilians on these islands would allow more people to live on the islands.”
Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), features must be able to sustain human habitation, have an independent economy and not be reliant on foreign imports to qualify as an official Island.
Zachary Haver, a Washington, based China analyst, said the territory is still reliant on deliveries from Hainan - the southernmost province of China.
However, the expert insisted China is moving in the right direction with its electricity generation and waters which are rich with minerals.
He said: “Woody Island is increasingly self-sufficient, at least in some respects, with robust electricity generation and seawater desalination capabilities.”
Mr Haver added the latest breakthrough will serve as a blueprint for further expansion of its presence in the South China Sea.
China already claims large parts of the water ways and has increased its presence by establishing military bases on the Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands.
South China Sea: The waters are one of the world's busiest shipping lanes (Image: GETTY)
Haver said: “The development of Woody Island is often seen as the blueprint for the development of other features in the South China Sea
“This is currently most noticeable on Tree Island in the Paracel Islands.
“The Woody Island model will likely be expanded to China's artificial island bases in the Spratly Islands.”
China’s sovereignly over the South China Sea is disputed by claims from neighbouring Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam.
The South China Sea is also one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.
It is strategically important to grow your own food to support that many people. They built greenhouses but not enough. Also it will legitimate China's hold on those islet and claim of economic zone.
Yes I agree they need to enlarge those islet and built at least fisherman/sea militia dormitory, cold storage, repair facility for civilian ship. Land for vegetable, rice farming and fruit tree orchard, food processing facility.
This islet is not the same as WWII era Japanese island outpost. It is much more sophisticated and more defensible
Here the infrastructure China built in YOngxing islet
PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)
Electricity is important for those island to function properly Stable electricity underwrites military stations and daily military operations in the South China Sea. Surface-to-air and anti-ship missiles, for example, need not depend solely on electric vehicles, Sofar they depend on diesel...
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South China Sea hammer blow: China secures huge victory as scientists achieve shock goal
CHINA has secured a huge victory in the South China Sea after scientists successfully grew crops - a symbolic milestone in the battle for control of the region.
By
PUBLISHED: 14:17, Thu, May 21, 2020 | UPDATED: 14:19, Thu, May 21, 2020
The Chinese Navy has managed to harvest 1.5 tonnes of vegetables on its largest military base in the Paracel Islands - a disputed archipelago in the South China Sea. The Chinese military, along with a research team from Chongqing Jiaotong University, started the project on a beach in the remote Woody Island - the largest of the Paracel Islands.
The team successfully completed a sand-to-soil cultivation in order to create a fertile environment for vegetation.
Although the South China Sea is rich with underwater reefs, creating an ecosystem on land has proven extremely difficult due to the lack of nutrient soil and fresh water.
The ground-breaking project has now put steps in place for human life to be sustained and for China to increase its presence in the dispute region.
South China Sea: Scientists have successfully grown crops on Woody Island (Image: GETTY)
Chen Xiangmiao, an assistant research fellow at the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, told the Global Times: “Now China's capability of being able to support civilians on these islands would allow more people to live on the islands.”
Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), features must be able to sustain human habitation, have an independent economy and not be reliant on foreign imports to qualify as an official Island.
Zachary Haver, a Washington, based China analyst, said the territory is still reliant on deliveries from Hainan - the southernmost province of China.
However, the expert insisted China is moving in the right direction with its electricity generation and waters which are rich with minerals.
He said: “Woody Island is increasingly self-sufficient, at least in some respects, with robust electricity generation and seawater desalination capabilities.”
Mr Haver added the latest breakthrough will serve as a blueprint for further expansion of its presence in the South China Sea.
China already claims large parts of the water ways and has increased its presence by establishing military bases on the Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands.
South China Sea: The waters are one of the world's busiest shipping lanes (Image: GETTY)
Haver said: “The development of Woody Island is often seen as the blueprint for the development of other features in the South China Sea
“This is currently most noticeable on Tree Island in the Paracel Islands.
“The Woody Island model will likely be expanded to China's artificial island bases in the Spratly Islands.”
China’s sovereignly over the South China Sea is disputed by claims from neighbouring Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam.
The South China Sea is also one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.
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Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Something like this will be useful A tidal wave power plant or wind mill power plant Does not depend on fuel
The 3rd-generation LHD horizontal axis modular generator set was successfully installed offshore on Saturday in Zhoushan, east China's Zhejiang Province. It marked the commissioning installed LHD tidal power capacity reaching 1.7 megawatts, which makes it a leader across the world.
China's farthest offshore wind farm is being built in the Yellow Sea off the coast of eastern China's Yancheng City. The farm is scheduled to be completed by the end of November and it is expected to generate 870 million kwh of electricity per year.
The 3rd-generation LHD horizontal axis modular generator set was successfully installed offshore on Saturday in Zhoushan, east China's Zhejiang Province. It marked the commissioning installed LHD tidal power capacity reaching 1.7 megawatts, which makes it a leader across the world.
China's farthest offshore wind farm is being built in the Yellow Sea off the coast of eastern China's Yancheng City. The farm is scheduled to be completed by the end of November and it is expected to generate 870 million kwh of electricity per year.
Do they really need to expand the base that much? I think if they anticipated needing a massive base, they would have gone further with their reclamation efforts in 2014-2015.
Now that they reclaimed the reef, they need to complete the rest of their naval infrastructure to really secure the area. Therefore their focus shifts to C4ISR and logistics - assets like radar, sonar, seabed hydrophones, communications, jamming, refueling, maintenance facilities, etc.
They'll also need more platforms to make full use of this new infrastructure - MPA and ASW aircraft, AOE/AOR ships, aerial tankers, sealift, marines etc etc.
Now that they reclaimed the reef, they need to complete the rest of their naval infrastructure to really secure the area. Therefore their focus shifts to C4ISR and logistics - assets like radar, sonar, seabed hydrophones, communications, jamming, refueling, maintenance facilities, etc.
They'll also need more platforms to make full use of this new infrastructure - MPA and ASW aircraft, AOE/AOR ships, aerial tankers, sealift, marines etc etc.
I think that is a stretch too far.
Imagine the cost.
Then look at what the extra benefit would be.
Oh I was not really making a serious suggestion with my comment, but I believe there could be a few advantages to increasing the size of Fiery Cross reef.
If I remember correctly, Fiery Cross Reef, or YongShuJiao(永暑礁), recently became the administrative capital of Nansha, which signals its geopolitical significance in South China Sea.
Increasing the size of the island can allow for more troops being stationed, larger number of naval vessels stationed, and make Fiery Cross a hub for maritime militia and fisherman activity.
PLAN has relied on fisherman with GPS and militia boats to track and pressure foreign vessels venturing into the area, so having a big enough island to allow for a sizable force to be stationed there is definitely a plus, and reduces the pressure on logistics and supply that must be transported from Hainan. Having a sizable civilian presence on the island can also increase the legitimacy of the claim.
That is just my 2 cents, but the likelihood of the reef being expanded into an island is uncertain, there are a lot more important stuff to be worrying about right now. Furthermore, building these islands are indeed not cheap. A dozen workers died of heat stroke while working on these islands in its initial days, although I think with the island already established with hospitals and other structures, the working conditions will be significantly better and hopefully no more death will occur if expansion plans will come true in the future.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
The facilities building has been completed long time ago. They did install all the sensor like radar, communication link, and I am pretty sure sonar and undersea detection system. Slowly they also station MPA, AWAC etc on the islet
Yongxing aka Woody island is the prototype of all other bases in SCS and Indeed they did enlarge the islet after completing all the amenities associated with enlarged civilian population.
Notice they add extra harbor on the southern side of the island and expand land on the norther side of the island
All photos courtesy of
Here is Yongxing in 2012
In 2016
Here is the latest from 2018
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