PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)

MwRYum

MwRYum

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advill said:
Wow, fantastic photos & developments. Hopefully, ASEAN & China will conclude a pragmatic & mutual benefit agreement, when the "Code of Conduct" is finally agreed/implemented. Importantly, it should be realistic, based on trust & friendship among countries in the region. A Dream? Well, a dream can turn into a reality IF diplomacy & mutual understanding & benefits are the goals.
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Anyone who ignore the primordial truth "peace through strength" (which, mind you, the US is the firmest believer, goes all the way back to the founding fathers including George Washington) is being naive at best, delusional at worst.
 
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jon88

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kurutoga said:
Construction quality looks like a computer game. Wow. My only complaint is they are planting cedar/fir to save water(?) I was expecting coconut/palm trees
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Even the Malaysian Swiflet Island (land reclaimation started in the late 80s after sinking 2 pontoons on the reefs to stake a legal claim) in the Spratly also planted mostly fir trees. If you have ever visited almost all of Malaysia's famous beaches, fir trees are planted. Fir trees can grow very well and holds the land better and deeper as well as are better wind breakers.

Anyway, Malaysia wanted to lay claim to more of the atolls but the Vietnamese and Phillipines militaries kept blowing up the Malaysian markers. Malaysian Navy in return blew up their rivals' markers. That was the order of the day then. PRC was a bit late in the race and ROC, although being the first claimant was militarily and economically weaker and after 1972 was not even recognised as a country by most ASEAN nations. I wrote a thesis on the SCS dispute more than 30 years ago.
 
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jon88

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jon88 said:
Even the Malaysian Swiflet Island (land reclaimation started in the late 80s after sinking 2 pontoons on the reefs to stake a legal claim) in the Spratly also planted mostly fir trees. If you have ever visited almost all of Malaysia's famous beaches, fir trees are planted. Fir trees can grow very well and holds the land better and deeper as well as are better wind breakers.

Anyway, Malaysia wanted to lay claim to more of the atolls but the Vietnamese and Phillipines militaries kept blowing up the Malaysian markers. Malaysian Navy in return blew up their rivals' markers. That was the order of the day then. PRC was a bit late in the race and ROC, although being the first claimant was militarily and economically weaker and after 1972 was not even recognised as a country by most ASEAN nations. I wrote a thesis on the SCS dispute more than 30 years ago.
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Sorry..it should be Swallow reef, not Swiflet.. Both birds look very similar.
 
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davidau

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co-operation with the Philipines and ASEAN...

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Jura The idiot

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jobjed said:
Photoshopped.
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I located that picture at
恩仇一例付云烟：中国和菲律宾海军是如何从对抗走向合作的
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with this caption:
8月3日菲律宾ABS-CBN广播电视台报道称，因3名菲律宾公民在利比亚被劫为人质，菲总统杜特尔特声称将向利比亚海岸派遣一艘护卫舰，用于解救菲籍人质。但奇葩的是，菲律宾媒体在报道这则新闻时，却用了中国海军的054护卫舰来配图。考虑到杜特尔特总统在发展中菲友好关系上的巨大努力，菲律宾媒体“急切”装备中国造护卫舰的心情应该说可以理解，因为就在7月30日中国也才向菲律宾捐赠了4艘配备30具40毫米口径榴弹发射器的巡逻艇，将有助于菲律宾提升其海岸巡逻能力。菲律宾海军是如何发展的，其又与中国发生过哪些历史纠葛？本期出鞘关注菲律宾海军。（查看完整内容搜索微信公众号：sinamilnews）
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which google translates to me as:
On August 3, the ABS-CBN radio and television station in the Philippines reported that as three Filipino citizens were taken hostage in Libya, Philippine President Duterte claimed that he would send a frigate to the Libyan coast to rescue the Filipino hostages. What is strange is that the Philippine media used the Chinese Navy's 054 frigate to map the news. Considering President Duterte’s great efforts in developing friendly relations between China and the Philippines, the Philippine media’s “eager” equipment to build Chinese frigates should be understandable, because on July 30, China donated only four ships to the Philippines. A patrol boat equipped with 30 40mm grenade launchers will help the Philippines improve its coastal patrol capabilities. How did the Philippine Navy develop and what historical entanglements have it with China? This issue is focused on the Philippine Navy. (View full content search WeChat public number: sinamilnews)
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it's
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Jura said:
I located that picture at
恩仇一例付云烟：中国和菲律宾海军是如何从对抗走向合作的
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with this caption:

which google translates to me as:
it's
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Give me a break!

To me, Sinamilnews is only next to pure rumor and fake media.

Below are the links I can find on the (Philippines) ABS-CBN web site:
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There is NO such picture. Unless someone find it, this ps'd is purely a faked one on an exaggerated line ("菲律宾媒体'急切'装备中国造护卫舰的心情应该说可以理解"), with a very, very misguiding title, claiming originating from ABS-CBN.. ...

I am NOT getting any personal. Simply hope this help members stay alert about the credibility quoting from Sina news.
 
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