PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)

Blackstone

Brigadier
The size contrasts are very impressive. The reason that China can construct such large islands is because these three islands sit on very large reef beds. Is China just lucky that these three islands happen to have large reef beds? Or is it fairly common that some reefs/islands occupied by other claimants also have such large beds such that they can also construct large islands if they can?
Probably the latter.
 

ahojunk

Senior Member
Thanks for posting ahojunk, I've been waiting for a map like this for a long time with information on the other SCS claimants' holdings as well as China's. Do you know where to find or if there are satellite images out there of work being done on the other SCS claimants' holdings?

@Jeff Head

Is there a thread to post other SCS claimants islands/reefs?

I thought we had one, but I am not able to locate it.
 

no_name

Colonel
The size contrasts are very impressive. The reason that China can construct such large islands is because these three islands sit on very large reef beds. Is China just lucky that these three islands happen to have large reef beds? Or is it fairly common that some reefs/islands occupied by other claimants also have such large beds such that they can also construct large islands if they can?

I read that Vietnam recently try to enlarge one of their island/reef but the site is subsequently wrecked by typhoon, before they managed to secure the perimeter. Not many country can do it fast with the technology/expertise that China has. What was done to Yongshu, Subi and Meiji reefs looks straightforward but is not.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
I read that Vietnam recently try to enlarge one of their island/reef but the site is subsequently wrecked by typhoon, before they managed to secure the perimeter. Not many country can do it fast with the technology/expertise that China has. What was done to Yongshu, Subi and Meiji reefs looks straightforward but is not.

What China has done to Yongshu, Subi and Meiji is engineering marvel, super engineering, unprecedented in the history of mankind and in just merely 1-2 years!!!. I doubt any other countries would be able to do that, let alone Philippine or even Vietnam.

China made it looked straightforward, thats amazing!!! ... I can tell you for sure it is extremely complicated.

In a way it is scary!
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
What China has done to Yongshu, Subi and Meiji is engineering marvel, super engineering, unprecedented in the history of mankind and in just merely 1-2 years!!!. I doubt any other countries would be able to do that, let alone Philippine or even Vietnam.

China made it looked straightforward, thats amazing!!! ... I can tell you for sure it is extremely complicated.

In a way it is scary!

Personally I consider it a combination of engineering prowess and available resource, both of which China has in abundance.
 

weig2000

Captain
I read that Vietnam recently try to enlarge one of their island/reef but the site is subsequently wrecked by typhoon, before they managed to secure the perimeter. Not many country can do it fast with the technology/expertise that China has. What was done to Yongshu, Subi and Meiji reefs looks straightforward but is not.

There are two aspects to the feasibility of constructing such large islands in the middle of ocean: the size and shape of the reef beds, and the capability and resources to do it. China definitely has second to none civil engineering experience and capability and the resources, no doubt about it. Still, you would need rather large reef beds to support the island built upon it. That's what my question is about.
 

longmarch

Junior Member
Registered Member
Reefs occupied by Vietnam have even bigger beds, there is a table out there about this. It needs to be big with shallow water. These three are big but far from the biggest.

These reclamation can literally cost billions of dollars to construct, just like an aircraft carrier. Not many country in the world can afford this sort of thing without immediate economic benefit.

China is experienced in land reclamation. Hong kong airport is built on reclaimed land with even bigger scale. Shanghai Yangshan port is also built on reclaimed land, world biggest container port.

There are two aspects to the feasibility of constructing such large islands in the middle of ocean: the size and shape of the reef beds, and the capability and resources to do it. China definitely has second to none civil engineering experience and capability and the resources, no doubt about it. Still, you would need rather large reef beds to support the island built upon it. That's what my question is about.
 

Sweeper Monk

New Member
Registered Member
I read that Vietnam recently try to enlarge one of their island/reef but the site is subsequently wrecked by typhoon, before they managed to secure the perimeter. Not many country can do it fast with the technology/expertise that China has. What was done to Yongshu, Subi and Meiji reefs looks straightforward but is not.
Do you have a link to the story of Vietnam doing the same but wrecked by a typhoon?
 

no_name

Colonel
Do you have a link to the story of Vietnam doing the same but wrecked by a typhoon?

Not a direct link.

"2015年4月11日卫星图显示,
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开始在中国的南华礁进行非法填海造陆行动,南华礁东西两侧填出了0.03平方公里的陆域。越南在南华礁上的填礁造陆的“成果”在2015年底被强台风摧毁。"


"Vietnam started reclamation project on Cornwallis South reef and managed to filled out land area of 0.03 Km^2 on east and west side of the reef. The result was destroyed by typhoon at the end of 2015"
 
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