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vesicles

vesicles

Colonel
Blackstone said:
Why do you say that? It's reasonable for the pirates to flee when they see a naval helicopter circling overhead, because they know a warship is steaming their way. India Navy took the lead in the piracy rescue, with assistance from a PLAN FFG.
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I don't think that's how the Chinese spokesperson described it. According to her, PLAN FFG arrived at the scene at midnight on the 9th, conducted aerial surveillance using their own choppers, evaluated situation based on the intelligence collected by themselves, established communication with sailors onboard and conducted boarding in the morning with aerial support of their own.

If we compare Indian Navy's description, we will find that the Indians arrived at the scene at around the same time as the PLAN (~midnight /early morning of the 9th). Instead of communicating with other naval vessels at the location (Chinese navy, Pakistanis navy and Italian navy), they circled around the merchant vessel and talked with the sailors onboard. That was it. They didn't coordinate with any other naval vessels and never attempted to take care of situation. They didn't do anything else other than circling around the merchant vessel.

This is comparable to a bystander to an accident. They simply stand there watching the victim, never attempting to call the authorities, never attempting to save the victims themselves. Simply standing there, talking with the victim a little.

Based on Indian Navy's own description, what's even crazier is that they wanted the victims to save themselves. The Indian navy called the victims on onboard and asked them to come out to see if there was still pirates onboard. This is like a bystander asks a possibly injured victim: "can you stand up and walk to the hospital on your own?"

at most, the Indians were bystanders. And now they want to take the credit.
 
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plawolf

plawolf

Lieutenant General
If the Indian navy asked the crew to come out of their strong rooms to check the ship for pirates themselves, not only was it extremely unprofessional and dangerous, it was downright stupid.

The crew was safe, so perfect opportunity to mount a board and cleanse operation without risk of hostages.

Instead their advice would have as good as handed the pirates hostages had they still been on board at the time.

If one was uncharitable, one might suspect the Indians wanted the pirates to take hostages if they were still onboard so they didn't have to risk their necks taking the ship back from them.

It's either that or rank stupidity and laziness of a rediculous degree.

And typically, after making such an unimaginably stupid call, they are the ones first to claim credit.
 
timepass

timepass

Brigadier
vesicles said:
I don't think that's how the Chinese spokesperson described it. According to her, PLAN FFG arrived at the scene at midnight on the 9th, conducted aerial surveillance using their own choppers, evaluated situation based on the intelligence collected by themselves, established communication with sailors onboard and conducted boarding in the morning with aerial support of their own.

If we compare Indian Navy's description, we will find that the Indians arrived at the scene at around the same time as the PLAN (~midnight /early morning of the 9th). Instead of communicating with other naval vessels at the location (Chinese navy, Pakistanis navy and Italian navy), they circled around the merchant vessel and talked with the sailors onboard. That was it. They didn't coordinate with any other naval vessels and never attempted to take care of situation. They didn't do anything else other than circling around the merchant vessel.

This is comparable to a bystander to an accident. They simply stand there watching the victim, never attempting to call the authorities, never attempting to save the victims themselves. Simply standing there, talking with the victim a little.

Based on Indian Navy's own description, what's even crazier is that they wanted the victims to save themselves. The Indian navy called the victims on onboard and asked them to come out to see if there was still pirates onboard. This is like a bystander asks a possibly injured victim: "can you stand up and walk to the hospital on your own?"

at most, the Indians were bystanders. And now they want to take the credit.
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plawolf said:
If the Indian navy asked the crew to come out of their strong rooms to check the ship for pirates themselves, not only was it extremely unprofessional and dangerous, it was downright stupid.

The crew was safe, so perfect opportunity to mount a board and cleanse operation without risk of hostages.

Instead their advice would have as good as handed the pirates hostages had they still been on board at the time.

If one was uncharitable, one might suspect the Indians wanted the pirates to take hostages if they were still onboard so they didn't have to risk their necks taking the ship back from them.

It's either that or rank stupidity and laziness of a rediculous degree.

And typically, after making such an unimaginably stupid call, they are the ones first to claim credit.
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No bashing/No offence ..... but this how they (Indians) pursue their stands .... creates such hype through Print/Electronic/Social & other medias & make the world almost certain to believe their stance....& in majority cases world believes their stances.
 
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joshuatree

Captain
Blackstone said:
Why do you say that? It's reasonable for the pirates to flee when they see a naval helicopter circling overhead, because they know a warship is steaming their way. India Navy took the lead in the piracy rescue, with assistance from a PLAN FFG.
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Shouldn't the helo have been able to spot the pirates fleeing if they did flee in response to a circling naval helo? I would lean towards the pirates had long left before the helo arrived on scene.
 
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jacksprat

New Member
Putting too much emphasis on whose navy/ship did exactly what, the ship and it's crew were rescued, anything else smacks of nationalistic fevor (jingoism) or breast beating. Anti piracy patrols are an international cooperative effort.
 
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jacksprat

New Member
Excellent response, but I am perhaps predisposed to think about "breasts" vice "chests". And it's seems to me as attention getting as most press reporting seems to be, if you get my point.
 
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