joshuatree
Captain
Re: PLAN Type 056 Class OPV/Corvette
Great discussion, too many replies to be addressing line by line so here are my counterpoints.
I don't think the 056 was only meant for SCS. Otherwise, we would not see units being assigned to ESF and NSF aside from the obvious SSF. No one is expecting a 056 to operate alongside a 052D as something being planned and routine. But if a fluid situation happens in a theater such as the ECS, it be wise to run a few exercises to practice such coordination.
I no longer see a need for a type 054A 5000+ ton successor beyond the first island chain. That can be accomplished with 052Ds, maybe even a 052E version. Of course, this is predicated on the notion that 052Ds will be continued in serial production alongside 055s. If you send a lone ship beyond the first island chain (during peacetime of course), it would make sense to have a vessel that's well rounded. A 052D can be configured for ASW operations as well, remember, it has the new universal VLS. Would it really be cheaper after R&D and new production costs for a type 054A successor vs continued serial production of 052Ds that could evolve to E versions but essentially the bulk of R&D costs already paying dividends? Plus, more 052Ds instead of a 5000+ ton medium threat frigate means more versatility for the overall fleet because any 052Ds dealing with medium threats can readily be redeployed for greater threats beyond. And the fleet maintenance cost is kept in check with less classes of vessels out there.
Within the first island chain, this is where I see a 056B version making more sense. I only threw out the idea of a trimaran because the 056 is more for littoral operations. Keeping a shallow draft is important. However, one could increase length and beam of ship to increase tonnage and keep draft in check. But I see more relevance with a 2000+ ton 056B derivative configured for ASW than a 5000+ ton frigate. There are air assets, land based assets, and other naval vessels to provide cover to a dedicated ASW 2000+ ton 056B within the first island chain. These vessels can be churned out quickly and cost efficiently. There already are export design models so R&D has already been partially covered.
There are no standardized terms for corvettes, frigates, destroyers. I don't see anything wrong with a navy consisting of destroyers and corvettes but no frigates. If anything, the USN has sorta moved along those lines. While budget doesn't appear to be an issue, I think it be wise to not go crazy on R&D dollars over more frigates. Those funds should rather be directed at a LHA program.
Great discussion, too many replies to be addressing line by line so here are my counterpoints.
I don't think the 056 was only meant for SCS. Otherwise, we would not see units being assigned to ESF and NSF aside from the obvious SSF. No one is expecting a 056 to operate alongside a 052D as something being planned and routine. But if a fluid situation happens in a theater such as the ECS, it be wise to run a few exercises to practice such coordination.
I no longer see a need for a type 054A 5000+ ton successor beyond the first island chain. That can be accomplished with 052Ds, maybe even a 052E version. Of course, this is predicated on the notion that 052Ds will be continued in serial production alongside 055s. If you send a lone ship beyond the first island chain (during peacetime of course), it would make sense to have a vessel that's well rounded. A 052D can be configured for ASW operations as well, remember, it has the new universal VLS. Would it really be cheaper after R&D and new production costs for a type 054A successor vs continued serial production of 052Ds that could evolve to E versions but essentially the bulk of R&D costs already paying dividends? Plus, more 052Ds instead of a 5000+ ton medium threat frigate means more versatility for the overall fleet because any 052Ds dealing with medium threats can readily be redeployed for greater threats beyond. And the fleet maintenance cost is kept in check with less classes of vessels out there.
Within the first island chain, this is where I see a 056B version making more sense. I only threw out the idea of a trimaran because the 056 is more for littoral operations. Keeping a shallow draft is important. However, one could increase length and beam of ship to increase tonnage and keep draft in check. But I see more relevance with a 2000+ ton 056B derivative configured for ASW than a 5000+ ton frigate. There are air assets, land based assets, and other naval vessels to provide cover to a dedicated ASW 2000+ ton 056B within the first island chain. These vessels can be churned out quickly and cost efficiently. There already are export design models so R&D has already been partially covered.
There are no standardized terms for corvettes, frigates, destroyers. I don't see anything wrong with a navy consisting of destroyers and corvettes but no frigates. If anything, the USN has sorta moved along those lines. While budget doesn't appear to be an issue, I think it be wise to not go crazy on R&D dollars over more frigates. Those funds should rather be directed at a LHA program.
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