PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Jeff Head

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PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing (2)

The following link is to an awesome video of the SU-33 and how it opertes off of the Kuznetsov. It is likely that the same type of opertions could be expected off of the Varyag.

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Enjoy looking at it and I am looking forward to lots of comments.
 

Jeff Head

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Intrepid said:
In Sczepan's second picture they are painting the island, is that correct?
It sure looks like it Intrepid. Looks like a small section of it has been painted. We need a larger, more sharp image to be sure...but there appears to be a section of the island that has been painted in that photo.
 

bd popeye

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Jeff Head said:
It sure looks like it Intrepid. Looks like a small section of it has been painted. We need a larger, more sharp image to be sure...but there appears to be a section of the island that has been painted in that photo.

First off Croq. I don't think those are holes in the flight deck. I don't know what it is. I posted about this in another thread. But If they are holes they are certianly too small to lower and propulsion plant through. That would be done in the hangar deck....

Jeff..We all want to see pics of the Varyag. Yes we do. I really wish we had a forum member near the shipyard with working camera and a lot of guts. Then we could get some pics. I'm tellin' you right now security must be real tight in the PRC because all we see are these same old crusty, dusty pics we have been seeing for the last year or more..:( .. I guess that's how the PRC operates though....Too bad we can't get any pics like this...I can of course dream.

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Re: Video of how SU-33 could work off of a PLAN carrier

Jeff Head said:
The following link is to an awesome video of the SU-33 and how it opertes off of the Kuznetsov. It is likely that the same type of opertions could be expected off of the Varyag.

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Enjoy looking at it and I am looking forward to lots of comments.

Eeennnhhh..ahem.Yawn...Is the video over yet? I wish when I worked on the flight deck we had so few aircraft on deck so I could have more room to roam....

Everytime I see the Russian CV viedos It just looks like the flight deck is devoid of action. But I know this thread is not about comparisons:eek:

The flying of the Su-33 does look awesome though. The few Naval avaitors that the Russians do have are very skilled...The refueling probe looks kinda small compared to a USN one. The USN refeuling probe is larger and extends futher from the aircraft probally creating a great measure of safety.

So guys just how many Su-33 will the PLAN need? 24 , 36 + spare parts??:confused: And why is the IN buying Mig-29's and not Su-33's?
 

tphuang

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Re: Video of how SU-33 could work off of a PLAN carrier

hmm, would like to watch this, but still need to finish watch last night's AI episode video first, hehehe.
I'm guessing at least 24. Considering that su-27kub could be a really nice strike aircraft, 48 would be possible. There are plenty of strike aircrafts in PLANAF, su-27kub would be better than anything China has right now for that mission.
 

bd popeye

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Re: Video of how SU-33 could work off of a PLAN carrier

tphuang said:
hmm, would like to watch this, but still need to finish watch last night's AI episode video first, hehehe.
I'm guessing at least 24. Considering that su-27kub could be a really nice strike aircraft, 48 would be possible. There are plenty of strike aircrafts in PLANAF, su-27kub would be better than anything China has right now for that mission.
hmm, would like to watch this, but still need to finish watch last night's AI episode video first

AI=American Idol?? Believe it or not I have never ever seen that show. And have no intention of watching it on pourpose.

Anyway could 48 Su-27 fit on the Varyag? I think it would be way to conjested. Creating a danger for an unskilled crew...No slight intended to the PLAN.. Or do you mean 48 aircraft with 36 on board and 12 in reserve for training?
 

Jeff Head

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Re: Video of how SU-33 could work off of a PLAN carrier

bd popeye said:
I wish when I worked on the flight deck we had so few aircraft on deck so I could have more room to roam....Everytime I see the Russian CV viedos It just looks like the flight deck is devoid of action.
Well, the Russians certainly do not employ the numbers or the mixture of aircraft that US carriers do...therefore, they are going to be a whole lot less active on that flight deck. However, if they got a chance to load those SU-33's up for bear...and went after something, they would represent a considerable threat.

bd popeye said:
The flying of the Su-33 does look awesome though. The few Naval avaitors that the Russians do have are very skilled...The refueling probe looks kinda small compared to a USN one. The USN refeuling probe is larger and extends futher from the aircraft probally creating a great measure of safety.
There were some pretty good manuevers that the SU-33 made...seems like they would be very tough at knife fighting range. We need that ALRAMM to replace the Phoenix IMHO, a Super Hornet loaded with two LRAMMs, 4 AMRAMMs, and 2 AIM-9s would be a very dangerous animal from 120 NM all the way in.

bd popeye said:
So guys just how many Su-33 will the PLAN need? 24 , 36 + spare parts??:confused: And why is the IN buying Mig-29's and not Su-33's?
I'd say they should carry 30-36 SU-33s on the Varyag. I believe the INS is buying Mig-29s because the SU-33 is much heavier and takes more space, and more deck required to take off. The Latest mods to the Mig-29s are no slouch. They do have shorter legs and less carry though.
 
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