PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

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Gauntlet said:

Hmmm...and that makes me wonder. If they are preparing a sailable carrier, how come we havent heard jacked shit about them purchasing Flanker-Ds or navalizing local planes...?

Would you go as far as saying the hull itself is all finished with its paint job?

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we havbe heard plnety of shit about the pplanes(and seen a few nice fake pics). models with su-33s on them have been constructed. j-10c??

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MIGleader said:

we havbe heard plnety of shit about the pplanes(and seen a few nice fake pics). models with su-33s on them have been constructed. j-10c??

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Aint all that just rumors?

Have any officials confirmed it? Any inteligence reports mentioning it?

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Gauntlet said:

Aint all that just rumors?

Have any officials confirmed it? Any inteligence reports mentioning it?

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there is a reason why the carrier project is shrouded in secrecy. if we knew, so would many sources on the internet.

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exactly. But I am pretty sure an sale of Fulcrum-Ds or Flanker-Ds from Russia would have been pretty official.

Meaning if they do have carrier planes ready, it must be localy modified J-10s or J-11s. This would again mean that they have done the whole modification alone, without any real experience of building carrier based aircrafts.

I think they will go for Russian built planes.

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Gauntlet said:

exactly. But I am pretty sure an sale of Fulcrum-Ds or Flanker-Ds from Russia would have been pretty official.

Meaning if they do have carrier planes ready, it must be localy modified J-10s or J-11s. This would again mean that they have done the whole modification alone, without any real experience of building carrier based aircrafts.

I think they will go for Russian built planes.

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I agree. Some sort of super secrect deal could have been made. Who knows for sure? Hell..we don't even know if the Varyag is going to be a CV. Personally I think it will. I think it will be armed with MIG-29's just like the upcomming IN CV.

BUT if the PLAN hhas developed some sort of CV based J-10 variant. Wow! that would be big news.

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bd Popeye, you seem like a very knowledgeable guy. Just out of curiousity, do you think that the PLAN will indeed develop the Varyag as their first carrier, or do you believe they'll learn as much as they can from it and design their own?

I'd like to see your opinion on the matter.

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Sea Dog said:

bd Popeye, you seem like a very knowledgeable guy. Just out of curiousity, do you think that the PLAN will indeed develop the Varyag as their first carrier, or do you believe they'll learn as much as they can from it and design their own?

I'd like to see your opinion on the matter.

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Thank you.

I do indeed think it will be the first PLAN CV. I think the PLAN has pilots in training..somewhere to fly MIG-29's for the Varyag airwing. The PRC is such a serrective society we will not really know what happens until it does.

I think at first the PLAN will of course operate the ship in a training mode. And in about 2 years it will be operational with a mix of MIG-29's and ASW?SAR helos.

Eventually the PLAN will design there own CV. Afterlal they have owned 3 Russian CV's and one Austrailaian one ..the Melbourne. Thsi may not take place for several years. But I do indeed think it will happen.

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bd popeye said:

Thank you.

I do indeed think it will be the first PLAN CV. I think the PLAN has pilots in training..somewhere to fly MIG-29's for the Varyag airwing. The PRC is such a serrective society we will not really know what happens until it does.

I think at first the PLAN will of course operate the ship in a training mode. And in about 2 years it will be operational with a mix of MIG-29's and ASW?SAR helos.

Eventually the PLAN will design there own CV. Afterlal they have owned 3 Russian CV's and one Austrailaian one ..the Melbourne. Thsi may not take place for several years. But I do indeed think it will happen.

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nah...the plan doesnt own any of these ships. the varyag belongs to the macao casino company that bought it, the kiev carriers are amusement parks, and the melborne doesnt exist anymore.

i think the plan might go for a mix of mainly mig-29s for air cover, and some su-33s for strike. helixes definitly

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bd popeye said:

it will be operational with a mix of MIG-29's and ASW?SAR helos.

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Do you think that Russia would be willing to sell the PLAN Su-33's? I'm not sure they would. I more see Mig-29's in the mix like you do. Do you know if the Su-30's could be navalized? Like MIGleader says, I think helixes (as ASW) will be part of their compliment. What's your opinion on which helo will be providing ASW support, popeye?

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I think they will pretty much follow the Russian model.
Helix-A for ASW, Helix-D for SAR and Helix-E for AEW.

Since these choppers share much of their structure, it would be a smart move and the logistics wouldnt be too hard.