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Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

Jeff Head said:

I have added a complete section for the CVN-21 to the aircraft carrier site popeye. Since initial steel cutting has been accomplished, it is officially, "under construction" and so I placed it there right at the top.

I know the Kitty Hawk will be decomm'ed in 2008...but hope she remains in reserve for some time to come.

Where do you think they will retire her? Bremerton?

I hope so, then on one of my trips over there I can get good pics of her too!

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Jeff all the CV's that have been retired on the west coast were retired in San Diego at NAS North Island. Why? Because San Diego is the home to most of the west coast Navy. One third of the entire USN is stationed in San Diego. (Edit..I made a boo boo. the Indy was retired in Bremerton WA)

But before we jump our guns about retiring the Kitty Hawk another CV will have to repalce here in Japan. that is if the Japanese will allow a CVN in Japan. If not Japan probaly Hawaii or Guam. Plus as I mentioned before the USN fully intends to foward deploy another CV in the Pacific. We shall see.

Jeff did you know that the USN has delayed de-comissioning the JFK at least until August 2006? The below link says the USN will decomm 10 ships in the next year while at the same time comissioning 7 new ones. 2 of the ships being de-commed will remain in service with the Military Sealift Command.

Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

bd popeye said:

But before we jump our guns about retiring the Kitty Hawk another CV will have to repalce here in Japan. that is if the Japanese will allow a CVN in Japan. If not Japan probaly Hawaii or Guam. Plus as I mentioned before the USN fully intends to foward deploy another CV in the Pacific. We shall see.

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Read just today where the US and the Japanese have agreed to a CVN in Japan when the Kitty Hawk is decomm'ed in 2008. I am about to post it as a seperate thread.

Re: Latest Varyag Pics

To me the waterline is the same as before it reached China. My guess is that the engine for Varyag is probably hiding in the blue building and waiting to be installed. how will it be installed? no one knows for sure.:china:

Re: Latest Varyag Pics

PLABUDDY said:

To me the waterline is the same as before it reached China. My guess is that the engine for Varyag is probably hiding in the blue building and waiting to be installed. how will it be installed? no one knows for sure.:china:

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Those blue buildings are mysterious aren't they? I believe they are clearly related to the Varyag (at least in my opinion) and could certainly represent a logistical gathering and assembly point for whatever they plan to put in or on her.

Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Sczepan said:

I am going to be confused - what is going on at these island (or did you say "tower" in english)

at attached Image you may see the Island at Dalian, Ukraina und Bosporus
=> the circled blocks on the front of the island seem new--compared to previous images

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So much to read in this thread so I don't know if this was brought up:

Could it possibly be that they're installing PAR? Those "new" panels are confirgured looking similar to the 052C type PAR.

Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Sczepan said:

time will see
a clear pic of the Bospors Waterline at

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new Image at Dalian

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and Ol Image Ukraina

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Jeff you are an engineer right? What do u think about the part in the red dot? Do you think it's just some damaga and nothing more than that?

Re: Latest Varyag Pics

I think its more like this

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Sczepan said:

I think its more like this

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the first thumbnail could be from anyship anywhere.
so why is varyag high?
no piping
no engines
no planes
no people.

if we knew the volume of water in the shipyard, the engines weight, the waterline hight, we could calculate it...

Re: Latest Varyag Pics

PLABUDDY said:

Jeff you are an engineer right? What do u think about the part in the red dot? Do you think it's just some damaga and nothing more than that?

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Simply looks like the beginnings of the vessel's sonar dome to me. Where it merges with the hull.

Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Hope this linedrawings of Kuznetsovs clears something...