PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Jeff Head

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Re: J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

Hope we'll see this on the Liaoning soon.
Because of the engines?

It is interesting to note, that aircraft number 554 has appeared to have different engines on occasion, and has flown from the Liaoning:


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SteelBird

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Re: J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

Because of the engines?

It is interesting to note, that aircraft number 554 has appeared to have different engines on occasion, and has flown from the Liaoning:

I believe the 554 that took off from Liaoning was wearing AL-31s. What I want to see is WS-10s on aircraft carrier.
 

thunderchief

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Re: J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

You completely forgot that the potential energy you spoke of came from the aircraft's kinetic energy in the first place! The ramp itself is completely passive and does not add any energy to the aircraft.
It doesn't add energy , it adds time . Ramp serves to convert kinetic to potential energy . Again , imagine ball . It doesn't generate lift but still goes up . Now imagine that same ball having engines . By the time gravity slows it down , engines would work and add more energy to the system (from chemical energy of the fuel)


A lot of people think that the ramp shortens the take off length, but the ramp doesn't shorten anything. The take off length is still the same, just that a portion of that length is in the air.

It shortens the ship damm it :D . That is whole purpose of the ramp , to be able to takeoff from relatively small carrier . Example from Wiki :

For example, an AV-8B Harrier with a gross weight of 29,000 lb (13,000 kg) on a 59 °F (15 °C) day and a 35 kn (40 mph; 65 km/h) wind over the deck would require 400 ft (120 m) to takeoff using a 12° ski jump ramp designed as on the Principe de Asturias, but 750 ft (230 m) without the ski jump ramp.[22]

For a MiG-29 launching over the ski jump ramp on the Tbilisi, takeoff speed is reduced from about 140 kn (160 mph; 260 km/h) to about 70 kn (81 mph; 130 km/h) (depending on many factors such a gross weight).[23]

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SteelBird

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Re: J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

For comparisons sake here's a Super Hornet's stats;

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I'm not to argue but just feeling strange; since the J-15/Su-33 is huge aircraft but only to have internal fuel capacity of about 9,500 kg. The specs you posted above the F-18 Super Hornet has internal fuel of 18,840 lbs which translated into 8,500 kg+. Since F-18 is a much smaller aircraft, how can it carry so much fuel internally? Further, I always see photos of F-18 carrying up to 4 external tanks. If it is to have so much internal fuel, why bother to carry so many external tanks?

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Air Force Brat

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Re: J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

I'm not to argue but just feeling strange; since the J-15/Su-33 is huge aircraft but only to have internal fuel capacity of about 9,500 kg. The specs you posted above the F-18 Super Hornet has internal fuel of 18,840 lbs which translated into 8,500 kg+. Since F-18 is a much smaller aircraft, how can it carry so much fuel internally? Further, I always see photos of F-18 carrying up to 4 external tanks. If it is to have so much internal fuel, why bother to carry so many external tanks?

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It's a very happy airplane, those are likely for buddy stores, they all look like they have a refueling pack in the middle???

Its only about 3000kg lighter than the J-15, so its bigger and heavier than it appears, it is a Super Hornet.
 

by78

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Re: J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

An alleged photo of J-15's cockpit, or rather a simulator version, which should be close to the real thing. I had previously mistaken it for the J-10B's cockpit.

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Deino

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Re: J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

Surely not the correct tread, but a small teaser might be allowed for all interested ! :eek:
 

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Deino

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Re: J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

would be nice to have a HQ image with actual readable text. :)

... but more I don't want to show !
 

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