PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

China is ready to build the first domestic carrier vessels...
Here's what we have gotten over the last several weeks out of Dalian regarding a potential indigenous PLAN carrier being constructed there, and the module of part of the bow.

First, we had a sketch from a supposed yard worker who could not take a photo, but could draw a sketch and someone rendered it as follows:


newplan-carrier-01.jpg


Then later, we got some pretty decent artists renderings of that sketch from several angles. Here's on of them.


newplan-carrier-02.jpg


Finally, we have the picture of the Liaoning from Dalian taken such that is also caputured what appears to be the same module in the background. In fact, it appears to be from the same angle as the rendering picture I showed (which is why I showed that one).


newplan-carrier-03.jpg


As I said, I have examined the last photo, blown it up, and looked for inconsistencies. I could not find any. Now, the one I posted today has a few around the red circle that was drawn on the earlier photo...to remove it. But that is my doing. The original had none, and this one has none around that module.

I believe that that is in fact an actual module sitting behind the Liaoning. I believe it is the same thing the yard worker saw and sketched and then was rendered. I also believe it looks a lot like what could possibly be a ski ramp on the bow of a carrier.

Is that actually what it is? Too soon to tell, but it looks like it may well be.

Is it in fact a large module being constructed for the 1st indigenous PLAN carrier? That is...as I said before...the $50 dollar question.

Time will tell.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

It could be. Is that why the Liaoning was at Dalian, you know to be use as sort of an actual size scale model for the indigenous one?:eek:
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

It could be. Is that why the Liaoning was at Dalian, you know to be use as sort of an actual size scale model for the indigenous one?:eek:
I'm not sure. Some say there is an announcement coming next week...perhaps they will announce the construction of the new carrier.

Dalian is where the Liaoning was completely rebuilt too, so it could be to do some upgrade or fix something too.

We just do not know at this point.
 

no_name

Colonel
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

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Deino :confused:

That looks like a very old picture of India's indegenous carrier. The outline drawn seems to be similar too.

The article itself says that Jiangnan shipyard CEO stated that budget appropriated for construction of China's first carrier is about $3B USD.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

Here's what we have gotten over the last several weeks out of Dalian regarding a potential indigenous PLAN carrier being constructed there, and the module of part of the bow.

First, we had a sketch from a supposed yard worker who could not take a photo, but could draw a sketch and someone rendered it as follows:


newplan-carrier-01.jpg


Then later, we got some pretty decent artists renderings of that sketch from several angles. Here's on of them.


newplan-carrier-02.jpg


Finally, we have the picture of the Liaoning from Dalian taken such that is also caputured what appears to be the same module in the background. In fact, it appears to be from the same angle as the rendering picture I showed (which is why I showed that one).


newplan-carrier-03.jpg


As I said, I have examined the last photo, blown it up, and looked for inconsistencies. I could not find any. Now, the one I posted today has a few around the red circle that was drawn on the earlier photo...to remove it. But that is my doing. The original had none, and this one has none around that module.

I believe that that is in fact an actual module sitting behind the Liaoning. I believe it is the same thing the yard worker saw and sketched and then was rendered. I also believe it looks a lot like what could possibly be a ski ramp on the bow of a carrier.

Is that actually what it is? Too soon to tell, but it looks like it may well be.

Is it in fact a large module being constructed for the 1st indigenous PLAN carrier? That is...as I said before...the $50 dollar question.

Time will tell.

Good analysis, Jeff. Do you suppose Dalian assembled two different demo carrier bows, with and without ski ramp? Given the well-known limitations with ski ramp carriers, I wonder why PLAN wants another one. Is it that much of a reach for Dalian to build a cat-equipped CV?
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

Unquestionalable this is a carrier

Second carrier is under construction!

That's my read too asif, in fact I posted that this morning on the Plan Carrier thread, I'm betting they make an announcement soon, I think they are very happy with the Liaoning, I think they are quite happy with the ramp and the J-15s as well they should be. Congrats to the crew of the Liaoning and specifically the aircrew, good job guys.... brat
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

If China is willing to spend 16 billion RMBs ($3 billion USD) for CV 002, then is it reasonable to surmise it would bypass another ski ramp carrier and go with steam or EMALS catapults?

Seems reasonable for a ski jump, Queen Elizabeth is roughly speaking $5 billion a pop

And it makes perfect sense that they are going for a basic design package close to Liaoning with most likely a greater load

Liaoning with its inherit deign flaws wasn't exactly air centric so 24 J15, next indigenous carrier I would say still below 65,000 tons could lift 36 J15 with ease

As a matter of fact I think fighter aircraft specific Liaoning could probably get 30+ J15 on too but 24 is the number

That's 24 + 36 = 60 fighter aircraft or the ability to have say 2-3 squadrons in the air over its assets far away from Chinese mainland not bad

Having air cover over your forces outside your own airspace is a huge step in capability
 
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