PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Fanboys are as fanboys do. Most have no knowledge of whatsoever in actual carrier operations and I believe most had no idea how a ship even work. From the CG that they build, I believe that this came from someone with no knowledge on any ships... much less military class vessels. So we would do well to ignore these things.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Fanboys are as fanboys do. Most have no knowledge of whatsoever in actual carrier operations and I believe most had no idea how a ship even work. From the CG that they build, I believe that this came from someone with no knowledge on any ships... much less military class vessels. So we would do well to ignore these things.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Fanboys are as fanboys do. Most have no knowledge of whatsoever in actual carrier operations and I believe most had no idea how a ship even work. From the CG that they build, I believe that this came from someone with no knowledge on any ships... much less military class vessels. So we would do well to ignore these things.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

When I saw the checkerboard structure on the stern, my first thought was "Oh no, not another well deck squeezed onto a ship it has no place on!" I have noticed most carrier fanboys around these days are obsessed with the idea that the LHD is the ultimate in carrier layout. The number of arguments I've had with those who say we should scrap the 65k CVF design in favour of a 20 knot 40K LHD... MADNESS! You can't use a well deck unless you are stopped, for several hours, hello, sitting duck? Even the USN is moving away from them with the first few units of the America class. Well decks belong on second wave transports like LPDs and LSDs, not first wave flat tops. I'm still waiting for them to insist the new Gerald Ford class MUST be redesigned with a well deck!!

As to other aspects of the designs, the first one in Popeye's post has two cats to starboard in front of the bridge. Far too close together to be practical and not even a 100ft stroke length. Useless for launching anything bigger than a UAV IMHO. Why put a couple of useless cats on the starboard side where they foul the deck park when you can put a pair of 200ft+ cats on the angle deck? Sorry to disappoint the creationists out there, but evolution is a fact of life and certainly in carrier design these problems have already been solved. Just because young Mr Fanboy doesn't like the way working carriers look doesn't mean he can re write the rule books!:nono:

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

When I saw the checkerboard structure on the stern, my first thought was "Oh no, not another well deck squeezed onto a ship it has no place on!" I have noticed most carrier fanboys around these days are obsessed with the idea that the LHD is the ultimate in carrier layout. The number of arguments I've had with those who say we should scrap the 65k CVF design in favour of a 20 knot 40K LHD... MADNESS! You can't use a well deck unless you are stopped, for several hours, hello, sitting duck? Even the USN is moving away from them with the first few units of the America class. Well decks belong on second wave transports like LPDs and LSDs, not first wave flat tops. I'm still waiting for them to insist the new Gerald Ford class MUST be redesigned with a well deck!!

As to other aspects of the designs, the first one in Popeye's post has two cats to starboard in front of the bridge. Far too close together to be practical and not even a 100ft stroke length. Useless for launching anything bigger than a UAV IMHO. Why put a couple of useless cats on the starboard side where they foul the deck park when you can put a pair of 200ft+ cats on the angle deck? Sorry to disappoint the creationists out there, but evolution is a fact of life and certainly in carrier design these problems have already been solved. Just because young Mr Fanboy doesn't like the way working carriers look doesn't mean he can re write the rule books!:nono:

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

When I saw the checkerboard structure on the stern, my first thought was "Oh no, not another well deck squeezed onto a ship it has no place on!" I have noticed most carrier fanboys around these days are obsessed with the idea that the LHD is the ultimate in carrier layout. The number of arguments I've had with those who say we should scrap the 65k CVF design in favour of a 20 knot 40K LHD... MADNESS! You can't use a well deck unless you are stopped, for several hours, hello, sitting duck? Even the USN is moving away from them with the first few units of the America class. Well decks belong on second wave transports like LPDs and LSDs, not first wave flat tops. I'm still waiting for them to insist the new Gerald Ford class MUST be redesigned with a well deck!!

As to other aspects of the designs, the first one in Popeye's post has two cats to starboard in front of the bridge. Far too close together to be practical and not even a 100ft stroke length. Useless for launching anything bigger than a UAV IMHO. Why put a couple of useless cats on the starboard side where they foul the deck park when you can put a pair of 200ft+ cats on the angle deck? Sorry to disappoint the creationists out there, but evolution is a fact of life and certainly in carrier design these problems have already been solved. Just because young Mr Fanboy doesn't like the way working carriers look doesn't mean he can re write the rule books!:nono:

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Cats on Starboard is not in itself madness, just that specific design. Oh how us Brits lament that this beauty was cancelled (bottom):

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Cats on Starboard is not in itself madness, just that specific design. Oh how us Brits lament that this beauty was cancelled (bottom):

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Cats on Starboard is not in itself madness, just that specific design. Oh how us Brits lament that this beauty was cancelled (bottom):

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Planeman, as you can well see those cats are on the bow..or angle deck where they should be. Not protruding out like on the fanboy design. With cats designed as that fanboy has the deck would be either fouled or have a reduced air wing so aircraft can be spotted to be launched.