PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

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isthvan said:

Soviet carriers had one primary role – to provide air cover to soviet battle group.

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Agreed...as well as to extend air cover for their sub force..

isthvan said:

Secondary role was to attack US CBG whit SSM.

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Again, agreed. The Soviets developed their SAGs and their Naval Air Strike forces, and their carrier capability with a desire to destroy American carriers. US carriers are a roadblock to any nation wanting to establish dominance on the high seas, and a hard nut no one has been able to crack since World War II.

isthvan said:

When you look at Kuznietsov class from that prospective you can clearly see that they were quite capable for there role.

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Yes, they are very capable vessels, but they could not produce the quantity necessary to get to any realistic realization of those goals.

isthvan said:

Plus Soviets intended to have mixed air group (Mig-29k/ Su–27k) so they could carry more aircraft( but Russian navy abandoned Mig-29k because lack of founds).

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I believe there was orignal intent to also get the Frogfoot (SU-25) and the Freestyle (Yak-141) involved in that airwing as well, and to develop a fixed wing AWACS aircraft for the airwing too.

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Jeff Head said:

Yes, they are very capable vessels, but they could not produce the quantity necessary to get to any realistic realization of those goals.

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Well they were supposed to be used whit Kievs and new Ulyanovsk class carriers… Kuznietsov was only step in right direction. They also counted that US fighters will have hand full dealing whit Tu-22M bombers…

Jeff Head said:

I believe there was orignal intent to also get the Frogfoot (SU-25) and the Freestyle (Yak-141) involved in that airwing as well, and to develop a fixed wing AWACS aircraft for the airwing too.

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Yes you are quite right… IIRC Su-25 was used as carrier trainer and Yak-141 was designed to replace Yak-38 on Kiev class and to supplement Sukhois and Migs on Kuznietsov. Fixed wing AWACS (Yak-44) was also under development but that program was stopped before prototype could be built.

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yak-141 was to be the main plane on Kuznetsov after the catabult plans were dropped. only later on they discovered that MiG-29 and Su-27 could take of from it by using ski-jump....

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By doing a simple Yahoo search..(I do not like google)....I found this pic of the Varyag. I'm sure it is at least 1 year old. But I have not seen it before...




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Huitong's site, link might be broken... try clicking on "Varyag" in the introduction.

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bd popeye said:

I found this pic of the Varyag.

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Pic is not showing up in your post PE. I tried to find it from the html in your post...but that did not show up either.

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Thanks swimmerxc...That pic is sure onre I have not seen.

Jeff ..try the link Varyag on that page.

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thats the pic, I think

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That's it!

Thanks Sczpan! What did you do? Download it to your hard drive? Then attatch it?

I've said it before and I will repeat myself...It's just to bad that we can't get any up-to-date pics of the Varyag. I will keep searching though!

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bd popeye said:

That's it!

Thanks Sczpan! What did you do? Download it to your hard drive? Then attatch it?

I've said it before and I will repeat myself...It's just to bad that we can't get any up-to-date pics of the Varyag. I will keep searching though!

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Indeed - downloaded and attatched
and I also wll see newest pix of this ship!!!

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Sczepan said:

thats the pic, I think

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Thanks for that pic! I wish there were a higher res version of the same. I have been looking for a good look at the Varyag from the aft end for a long time and that's the best I have seen.