PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

PLABUDDY

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

We've seen that article already. Varyag still lacks radar, weapons, and electronics?, and an engine?. So far we've only seen the flight deck being "decorated". Nothing from inside Varyag have yet been released.
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DPRKPTboat

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

bd popeye said:
Miggy..That yellow is a primer that is used prior to applying the flight deck surface which the USN calls non-skid. Non-skid is an epoxy that requires several days to dry before it hardens.

Great pics swimmer dude. Great!

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Click on that link. The surface on the far right is what the USN uses on all it's decks. That stuff is tough. But it provides a no-slip surface. Look at the deck on this pic below..that is a good pic of non-skid.

[qimg]http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2079/web060227n7359l0011kw.jpg[/qimg]

Then there could not be a clearer sign. They're definetly going to commision it. And if they're using a lot of that paint, it probably means they're going to put some high perfromance aircraft on that deck. We're not talking about some helicopter carrier or low-performance planes here.
 

swimmerXC

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

What is this trying to say?
varyag314066re.jpg

Do engines even look like this?
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PLABUDDY

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Interesting pics. You can actually see in the blurry picture a shape of a lift. It could be that they are finally installing the engine. :china:
 

swimmerXC

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Pretty old story but here :D

AUG 27 1999

Beijing okays building of two aircraft carriers

HONGKONG -- China has approved the construction of two aircraft carriers to counter the US' naval presence in the region, it was reported here yesterday. The Chinese Communist Party Central Committee and the State Council or Cabinet have earmarked an initial fund of 250 million yuan (S$52 million) for the design and work on the construction of a 250,000-tonne aircraft carrier and a smaller 30,000-tonne vessel, the independent Sun newspaper said, quoting unidentified sources.

Both carriers were to be completed by 2009, the paper said, adding that Beijing approved the plans following the presence of the US 7th fleet in the Taiwan Strait in 1996 following Chinese wargames.

The design and construction of the aircraft carriers would be handled by 12 units, including China Military Science Academy, Shanghai Vessel Research Academy and Xi'an Aircraft Manufacturing Company, the report said.

Meanwhile, the Beijing-funded China Business Times said any Chinese military action against Taiwan would depend on the position of its next President on the "two-states" theory and Taiwan's participation in the US-led Theatre Missile Defence (TMD) system.

The South China Morning Post said it was the first time a Chinese publication has stated explicitly that the Beijing leadership would wait until the outcome of the presidential elections in March before deciding whether to take military action against the island.

The Chinese newspaper said it was "likely that China will take speedy military action" if the winner of the election "persists with the 'two-states' theory" or supports Taiwan in joining the TMD project. -- AFP

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Both carriers.... is there another out there, perhaps PLAN will buy the Minsk or Kiev! :china:
After all the Minsk just went bankrupt.
 

PLABUDDY

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

I'm not so sure about Minsk/kiev. The news says that
The Chinese Communist Party Central Committee and the State Council or Cabinet have earmarked an initial fund of 250 million yuan (S$52 million) for the design and work on the construction of a 250,000-tonne aircraft carrier and a smaller 30,000-tonne vessel, the independent Sun newspaper said, quoting unidentified sources.
But from what I've read from other sources, Minsk/Kiev is 42,000 tons full load, which is a lot heavier than the aircraft carrier proposed in the article.:china:
 

darth sidious

Banned Idiot
Re: Latest Varyag Pics

swimmerXC said:
What is this trying to say?
[qimg]http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/8899/varyag314066re.jpg[/qimg]
Do engines even look like this?
[qimg]http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2876/boat31306a0vg.jpg[/qimg]
[qimg]http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/162/boat31306b6pp.jpg[/qimg]
[qimg]http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3202/boat31306c0fq.jpg[/qimg]

the photo is trying to compare the varyag to the Russian carrier when its fittted out ( the russian name is the old one for the Kuznetsov) arrester wires and such
 

bd popeye

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

DPRKPT says
Then there could not be a clearer sign. They're definetly going to commision it. And if they're using a lot of that paint, it probably means they're going to put some high perfromance aircraft on that deck. We're not talking about some helicopter carrier or low-performance planes here.

You could be right. But I must tell you that the USN uses only one type of non-skid surface for any flight decks. Be they are operating helos or jets. The non skid surface wears down on a CV flight deck after about 5-6 months of use. During deployments it is common late in the deployment to see crewmen patching the old non-skid with new non-skid.
 

PLABUDDY

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

bd popeye said:
DPRKPT says


You could be right. But I must tell you that the USN uses only one type of non-skid surface for any flight decks. Be they are operating helos or jets. The non skid surface wears down on a CV flight deck after about 5-6 months of use. During deployments it is common late in the deployment to see crewmen patching the old non-skid with new non-skid.
I remember reading somewhere that the flight deck of Varyag will be used for private helicopter landing purposes. Is it possible that the non-skid surface is only used for civilian purposes as I mentioned above?:china:

A pic taken from onboard Varyag
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doogas

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Varyag might just be a training carrier or not even used (for reference only). I believe the Chinese are building their own at the same time in the Shanghai shipyards (which also has the greatest capacity to build high tonnage ships in China). Most large cargo ships today are built in Shanghai. Those rumors that went out last summer probably have some merit. The general said in 3 to 5 years; sprucing up Varyag shouldn't take 3 to 5 years.

Building ones own carrier would also garner more nationalism (icing on the cake). India's carrier didn't quite generate that much pride amongst Indians, since it was purchased from the British and really old.
 
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