PLAN Carrier Construction

Zerozen

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we need more clearer than this.
 

Engineer

Major
Care to explain, what exactly there is to experiment with?

Perhaps the word "testing" would be more appropriate. An aircraft carrier uses high tensile steels with more strength than the steel used on typical destroyers. That means there will be new welding technologies and techniques applied for producing welds with higher strength. For obvious reasons, new technologies and techniques have to be tested in an actual production environment before being used on an actual aircraft carrier. Additionally, the workers also need to be trained on using those new technologies and techniques. A demonstration module can serve both of these purposes.
 

chuck731

Banned Idiot
Perhaps the word "testing" would be more appropriate. An aircraft carrier uses high tensile steels with more strength than the steel used on typical destroyers. That means there will be new welding technologies and techniques applied for producing welds with higher strength. For obvious reasons, new technologies and techniques have to be tested in an actual production environment before being used on an actual aircraft carrier. Additionally, the workers also need to be trained on using those new technologies and techniques. A demonstration module can serve both of these purposes.

The ramp wouldn't be kwhere the ship's structure experiences the greatest stress in normal operation. It could be made of mild steel for all the difference such would make. The midship portion of the bottom of the ship and the main strength deck is usually where a ship's structure experiences the greatest tensile and compressive stresses during normal service. Why not build a hull segment where techniques would really be put to the test, if issue with high performance steel is the reason for the module?
 
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Engineer

Major
The ramp wouldn't be kwhere the ship's structure experiences the greatest stress in normal operation. It could be made of mild steel for all the difference such would make.
The ramp being curved, and the fact that the deck being one area where steel with highest tensile strength is used, make the ramp an interesting area for testing.

The midship portion of the bottom of the ship and the main strength decusage usually where a ship's structure experiences the greatest tensile and compressive stresses during normal service. Why not build a hull segment where techniques would really be put to the test, if issue with high performance steel is the reason for the module?
The demonstrator is never intended for structural validation. It is not an equivalent to a static test frame in aerospace engineering. Look at the purpose of the demonstrator module form a quality control viewpoint in manufacturing rather than from an engineering viewpoint.
 

Jovian

Junior Member
With regard to the photo of the supposed "ramp" (or bow) of the new carrier from Dalian, have anyone one asked the following two questions?

1. What is the ramp's angle? It doesn't seems like 12 degree (correct angle for STOBAR?) to my untrained eye. If it is a ramp, it looks like it will only be able to give the plane taking off it a slight "bump" only. For argument sake, if it is a "demo module", wouldn't it be more useful it they build it ... correctly?

2. Why is the "rear" part of the structure rounded off? By that I mean the part of the supposed flight deck, on that module, that is opposite to end that is the supposed "ramp" (bow).

I'll always be glad to see or hear something relating to the next carrier: be it claimed technical drawings, supposed test modules (ramp, catapult or helicopter carrier), or better yet actual module being build. This one, although it had gotten me excited at first, is just not very convincing upon closer look; unless someone can come up with a better explanation.
 

Engineer

Major
1. What is the ramp's angle? It doesn't seems like 12 degree (correct angle for STOBAR?) to my untrained eye. If it is a ramp, it looks like it will only be able to give the plane taking off it a slight "bump" only. For argument sake, if it is a "demo module", wouldn't it be more useful it they build it ... correctly?
The module is used for practice and skills demonstration.

2. Why is the "rear" part of the structure rounded off? By that I mean the part of the supposed flight deck, on that module, that is opposite to end that is the supposed "ramp" (bow).
The rounded off part represents the edge of the flight deck at the stern.
 
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